HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council Committees - Bicycle Advisory Board - 05/27/2014 AGENDA
KENT BICYCLE ADVISORY BOARD
PUBLIC MEETING
May 27, 2014 at 5:45 PM.
BOARD MEMBERS: CITY STAFF:
Melvin L. Roberts Mark Howlett
Dr. Sam Hartt
This is to notify you that the Kent Bicycle Advisory Board will hold a public meeting on Tuesday, May
27, 2014 at 5:45 PM in the North Conference Room of the Centennial Building 400 W. Gowe St.
Kent,WA. The public is invited to attend. The agenda will include the following items:
1. Opening remarks and introductions.
2. Status of Kent Valley Loop Trail. This will include ideas for the location, signage, and making the
loops family friendly. Attached is file: KLVT-NOA-Comments-Mar2014.
3. Status of Sharrow project. Mark
4. Status of Kent Historical Celebration and the bicycle tour route.
Attached ExploreKentRides/HistoricalKent20l4v2. Mel
5. Status of Green River Levee construction and bicycle detours (signs changes?) Mark
6. Status of 6-year TIP (Transportation Improvement Program), Ask for Committee and Public
comments on the TIP contents. Review of presentation of comments to PWC.
Attached TIP-2015-2020-Comments-To-Mayor-Cooke. Mel.
7. Status of the Board and its members.
8. Added items for this meeting:
A.
B.
9. Agenda items for the next meeting:
A.
B.
10. Adjourn
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Attachments:
Kent-6-year-TIP-docs/2015-2020/TIP-2015-2020-Comments-To-Mayor-Cooke
Trails/GreenRiverTrail/GRT-KentValleyLoopTrail20l 3/KLVT-NOA-Comments-Mar2014
Bicycling-CB C-Rides/ExploreKentRides/HistoricalKent20l4v2
Kent Bicycle Advisory Board(KBAB)meeting dates in 2014 are:
Jun 30, Jul 28, Aug 25, Sep 29, Oct 27,Nov 24, Dec 29.
For information,please contact Mel Roberts at 425-417-8931 or Mel@cyclekent.com.
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To: Mayor Cooke May 19, 2014
From: Mel Roberts
Subject: 2015-2020 Six Year Transportation Improvement Program
Mayor Cooke,
Since you are serious about creating a "People-Friendly" city and not just an
automobile centric city, we need to look no further than the six year TIP to find
ways to accomplish this goal. The current draft working its way through the
approval process has projects for pedestrians, transit and bicycling. Some of the
projects do a good job of making Kent a walk-able, bike-able, and people-friendly
city, while others fall short of that goal. From the KBAB's point of view, we can
generate sound ideas for the kind and location of facilities that we need.
However, creating a better quality of life in our city will require your direction to
make sure the improvements listed below happen to the TIP projects.
This document contains recommendations made by Mel Roberts, Chairman of the
Kent Bicycle Advisory Board. Many of these recommendations have been
discussed on bicycle rides, in the bicycle shops, and are supported by the bicycling
community. The KBAB recommendations are listed by project number, and
identify changes that will improve the ways we move people in our effort to make
Kent a "People-Friendly" city.
These recommendations were sent to the members of the Public Works
Committee for their consideration at regular committee meeting to be held May
19, 2014. The comments are based on the draft TIP data in the agenda packet for
that meeting. The recommendations start on the next page and refer to the
project numbers in the TIP.
Thanks,
Mel Roberts
Chairman, KBAB
Cc: Public Works Committee members
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KBAB Comments on 2015-2020 Six Year Transportation Improvement Program
#1: Southeast 256tn Street Widening, Phase II
SR 516 (Kent Kangley Road) to 116tn Avenue Southeast
Thanks for the ongoing effort on this one — It is one of the most needed bicycle
and pedestrian projects in Kent. The general description includes bike lanes on
both sides and sounds great. KBAB is concerned how the west ends of the bike
lanes will connect to vehicle lanes and/or sidewalk near the Kent-Kangley "Y".
#2: Kent Kangley Pedestrian Safety Improvements
104tn Avenue SE to 124tn Avenue SE
Only the most harden riders will chose vehicle lanes on SR-516 listed here, so it
follows that the bicycle riders will choose to use the sidewalk. Our concern is that
the curb cuts and pedestrian islands accommodate the turn radii needed for
bicycles using the sidewalks. The pedestrian islands should have diagonal cuts in
them that point all users about 45 degrees toward the traffic on the far side of the
island —this allows the pedestrians or bikes crossing the street to look at the on-
coming cars with only a 45 degree head turn (compared to a 90 degree head turn
if the cut in the island is at 90 degree to the vehicle lane). The length of the island
cut should be long enough to hold a bike pulling a child trailer or long enough to
hold a tandem bicycle. The width should be wide enough to accommodate
pedestrians and/or bicycles using the island from opposite directions at the same
time. There are streets in the bicycle network that cross SR-516, this project
should not make it more difficult to ride a bike on either the cross street roadway
or the cross street cross walk.
#3: South 228tn Street/Union Pacific Railroad Grade Separation
Grade Separation crossing at Union Pacific Railroad
This crossing is over the UPRR and the Interurban Trail. The trail needs to
continue to run along the railroad in the north-south direction. The requirement
for cycling with the new grade crossing is that the Interurban Trail connects west
of the UPRR to the Travel Lanes and Sidewalks on both the north and south sides
of the new grade crossing. This would be similar to the Interurban Trail
connections currently found at the UP RR crossing for S 196t" St. East-west travel
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over the UPRR should be provided via bike lanes (or cycle track). The description
needs to have the phrase "Bike Lanes" in it. Bike Lanes are needed here since it is
mi south and 1 mi north to the next nearest road where bicycle can cross the
UPRR.
#4: 72na Avenue South Extension
South 200th Street to South 196th Street
What traffic volumes do you expect here and is cycling in the street safe with
those volumes?
This new road could be build to accommodate bikes by using the standard "Road
Diet" configuration on this new part. While the roadway to the north and south
changed to a Road Diet as well. Where a road diet is: a Bike Lane, Vehicle Lane,
Two Way Left Turn Lane, Vehicle Lane and a Bike Lane. This road will be used by
some riders to get from the Interurban Trail over the UPRR on S 196t" St and to
the attractors to the east.
#5: Traffic Control Signal System
Citywide
Since it takes muscle power to start a bicycle after stopping and if that effort can be
reduced with the new control system that will be helpful. It seems to go without
saying that there will continue to be a need to detect bicycles at traffic light
controlled intersections. It would seem like choosing a few traffic light locations that
have bike lanes and installing bicycle detector loops to use for tripping the light and
counting the number of riders would be a good use of facilities. Consider, for
instance, James and 64t"
#6: 148tn Ave SE Improvements
SE 256t" Street to SE 240t" Street
Are bicycle facilities needed?
#7: Safe Routes to Schools Improvements at Meridian Elementary
25621 140th Avenue SE
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Time out... West of 132nd Ave there are bike lanes —they need to be continued
east of 132rd Ave to 140t" Ave (actually to the Soos Creek Trail) along with any
new sidewalk that is provided for the school kids. Extruded curbs are a real hazard
in the dark when you paint a white stripe on top of them. A bike rider can easily
mistake them for a painted line and try to ride over then with terrible results.
Will it be possible for a northbound rider on 140t" Av to be detected by the new
signal and cause it to be activated? Bicycle riders use all legs of this intersection in
their travels.
#8: Safe Walking Routes to School Improvements at Neely
O'Brien Elementary School
6300 N 236th Street
Will it be possible for a eastbound rider on 2361" St to be detected by the new
signal and cause it to be activated? Bicycle riders use all legs of this intersection in
their travels.
#9: Safe Walking Routes to School Improvements at Daniel
Elementary School
11310 SE 248th Street
This street needs some thought and action for the bicycle rider that chooses to
ride as a vehicle and occur the travel lane/shoulder for their riding.
#10: Kent Regional Trails Connector
Green River Trail to Interurban Trail at South 218tn Street
This project will be a great facility for those riders that wish to commute or do
their family riding on trails. Great idea.
#11: SE 208th Street and 108th Avenue SE (SR 515/Benson
Highway) Intersection Improvement
Intersection Operations Enhancements
No comment.
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#12: South 224tn Street Extension
84cn Avenue South to 104cn Avenue Southeast (Benson Rd) (SR 515)
The Council Approved plan project document for this has "paved" 5 foot
shoulders that functions as an official bike lane where the grade is less than 5%
and is an unofficial bike lane where the grade is greater than 5%. It appears the
project description should include 5 foot paved shoulders in the description along
with full width paving, curb and butters, etc.
#13: Central Avenue South Improvements
Green River Bridge to East Willis Street (SR 516)
In this project area the drain grates that have slots wide enough to capture a
narrow bicycle tire need to be replaced. This will prevent "headers" when the tire
stops in the grate and the rider continues forward and plants his/her head into
the pavement. Since bike lanes do not exist in the roadway the sideway needs to
be wide enough to accommodate riders and walkers.
#14: Willis Street and Central Avenue Intersection Improvements
Good idea — I was just about run over by a right turning pair of drivers that turned
from southbound Central onto west bound Willis.
#15: Willis Street (SR 516)/Burlington Northern Santa Fe
Railroad Grade Separation
Grade Separation Crossing at Burlington Northern
Santa Fe Railway
This Willis Street separation crosses the BNSF RR. This crossing is often used by
group bicycle riders that start at the bicycle shop on Central. It is important that
bike riders can go east and west over (or will it be under) the RR at this location.
The side streets that access Willis will need to support access by bicycle riders to
the side streets and the over/underpass. East-west travel is currently provided by
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a ride-able shoulder on Willis. The WSDOT bicycle policy requires facilities to
allow safe use of state highways by bicycle riders.
#16: South 212tn Street/Burlington Northern Santa Fe
Railroad Grade Separation
Grade Separation Crossing at Burlington Northern Santa Fe Railway
This S 212th Street grade separation crosses the BNSF RR. This crossing needs to
be used by bicycle riders to cross the valley floor. Alternate over/under passes are
1 mi north and 1 mi south of this location (a long ways for a rider in a hurry to get
to a job. It is important that bike riders can go east and west over (or will it be
under) the RR at this location. The side streets that access S212th St will need to
support access by bicycle riders to and from the over/underpass. East-west travel
is currently provided by a dual purpose sidewalk with space for walkers and a
painted bike lane on the walkway.
#17: SE 248tn Street Improvements
109tn Avenue SE to 132nd Avenue SE
Where are the bike lanes?
#18: James Street Bicycle Lanes
Interurban Trail to Washington Avenue (SR 181) and 800 feet
east of the Green River Trail
Marvelous. In the future, remember to do the remaining peice from Kent station to
Central Ave.
#19: Military Road South at Reith Road
Intersection Operations Enhancement
KBAB reviewed this several years ago. It was recommended then and still is
recommended that bike lanes exist on the left side of every right turn pocket to
provide safe passage for bicycles that want to go through the intersection. This
prevents the bicycles from delaying the through vehicle traffic and keeps them
from being in the way of the right turning vehicles. Reith and S259t"/S260th are
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on the bicycle network. West of this Military Rd intersection a Road Diet is
planned that would connect to bike lanes described above. This east-west bicycle
connection is one of the safest routes under 1-5 and definitely should have bike
lanes. See also Number 29.
#20: Willis Street (SR516)/Union Pacific Railroad Grade Separation
Grade Separation Crossing at Union Pacific Railroad (UPRR)
This Willis Street separation crosses both the Interurban Trail and the UPRR. The
Interurban Trail needs to continue to run along the railroad in the north-south
direction. For cycling the new overpass introduces the new requirement that the
trail connect, on the west side on the railroad, to Bike Lanes or ride-able
shoulders on both the north and south sides of Willis. This is similar to the
Interurban Trail connections currently found at the UPRR crossing for S 196t" St.
East-west travel over the railroad should be provided. The description needs to
say "provide for bicycle facilities" with connections as described above. East-west
travel is currently provided by a ride-able shoulder on Willis. The WSDOT bicycle
policy requires facilities to allow safe use of state highways by bicycle riders.
#21: South 212tn Street/Union Pacific Railroad Grade Separation
Grade Separation Crossing at Union Pacific Railroad
Provide east-west bike facility on the over pass, provide north-south bike facility
under the overpass, and on the west end of the overpass connect both sidewalks
back via ramps back to the Interurban Trail. The sidewalks over the UPRR in this
project need to be the same width as the current sidewalk with its combined
space for pedestrians and bike lanes.
#22: Safe Routes to Schools Improvements at Meadow Ridge
Elementary School
27710 108tn Avenue SE
Are bike lanes needed for bicycle-vehicles as well as bicycle-pedestrians?
Don't exclude bicycle-vehicles when you build to support students.
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#23: Safe Routes to Schools Improvements at Horizon Elementary
27641 144tn Avenue SE
Are bike lanes needed for bicycle-vehicles as well as bicycle-pedestrians?
Don't exclude bicycle-vehicles when you build to support students.
#24: Panther Lake Signal System Integration.
Go for it.
#25: 108tn Avenue Southeast Extension
SE Kent Kangley Road (SR 516) to SE 256tn Street
This is a new roadway and should be built as a complete street. As a new street it
should NOT be constructed without bicycle lanes. Without bike lanes the bikes
will have to ride in the busy vehicle lanes. This road segment is on the Bicycle
Network in the TMP — it should have Bike Lanes on it.
#26: Smith St and Central Avenue Intersection Improvement
Intersection Operations Enhancement
Go for it.
#27: S 212tn St and 72na Avenue South Intersection Improvement
Intersection Operations Enhancement
To support bicycle riders that want to go from southbound on 72nd Av S to the
eastbound bike lanes on S2121" St, mark the right lane of the dual left turn lanes
with Sharrows to indicate bicycle usage.
#28: SE 240tn Street and 104tn Avenue SE (SR 515/Benson
Highway) Intersection Improvement
Intersection Operations Enhancement
Go for it.
#29: Military Road South Widening
South 272na Street to Kent-Des Moines Road (SR 516)
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This project provides a safe north-south route on west hill on the east side of 1-5.
Thanks for including bike lanes. See also Number 19.
#30: 132nd Avenue Southeast Widening - Phase I
Kent Kangley Road (SR 516) to Southeast 248tn Street
This project phase provides a necessary part of a great north-south route on East
Hill. Thanks for including bike lanes. This is part of providing continuous bike lanes
from Maple Valley Highway near Fairwood to SR-18. See number 31 and 32.
#31: 132nd Avenue Southeast Widening - Phase II
Southeast 248cn Street to Southeast 240tn Street
This project phase provides a necessary part of a great north-south route on East
Hill. Thanks for including bike lanes. This is part of providing continuous bike lanes
from Maple Valley Highway near Fairwood to SR-18. See number 30 and 32.
#32: Kent Kangley Road (SR 516) and 132nd Avenue SE
Intersection Improvement
Intersection Operations Enhancement
This project in addition to providing vehicle turning capacity needs to provide
space for the north-south movement of bicycles using the Bike Lanes that are
specified for project numbers 19 and 20. If there are right turn pockets —the bike
lanes are to be on the left side of the right turn pockets near the intersection.
See number 30 and 31.
#33: South 260tn Street and Pacific Highway South (SR 99)
Intersection Improvement
Intersection Operations Enhancement
This project in addition to providing vehicle turning capacity needs to provide
space for the east-west movement of bicycles. The bicycles will be using the Bike
Lanes that will be on S260th as provided by the planned S260th Road Diet. There
are Bike Lanes on the west side of SR-99 (Des Moines). Having a through
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eastbound and westbound Bike Lanes helps prevent vehicle delays by separating
the bicycle from the vehicles. Where there are eastbound or westbound right turn
pockets on S 260t" St —the bike lanes are to be on the left side of the right turn
pocket.
#34: SE 256tn Street and 104tn Avenue SE (SR 515/13enson
Highway) Intersection Improvement
Intersection Operations Enhancement
Where does revising part of the intersection fit into the scheduled plan to close
the eastbound traffic lane onto S256th St just east of 1041" Av S?
#35: South 212tn Street and 84th Avenue South Intersection
Improvement
Intersection Operations Enhancement
Consider how the eastbound riders in the road with traffic or on the sidewalk and
wheelchair users get to the north side of S212th St to use the sidewalk to ride
uphill.
#36: Meeker Street and Washington Avenue Intersection
Improvement
Intersection Operations Enhancement
When right turn pockets (turn lanes) are added to intersection where the
dominate bicycle movement moves straight through then there must be a bike
lane on the left side of the right turn pocket. The TMP update to Bike Lanes here
is in the KBAB docket request that is in work.
#37: South 272na Street and Military Road Intersection
Improvement
Intersection Operations Enhancement
ImpactTBD.
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#38: Street Preservation Program
Ongoing Citywide Program
Please continue to keep the roads in good shape, since potholes and lumpy
pavement are dangerous to ride on.
#39: Residential Traffic Calming Program
Ongoing Citywide Program
KBAB encourages traffic calming concepts as safer for cycling since lower speeds
results in less severe injuries. There is one caveat, use the 6 to 8 foot long speed
bumps and not the bumps that are 1 foot long (as measured along the road).
These are hazards to balancing the bike and make it difficult to handle a bicycle
safely. Traffic circles are nice.
#40: Traffic Signal Management Program
Ongoing Citywide Program
KBAB would like to see the MUTCD "Place your bike here for the signal detection
to work" symbols placed on the streets. This is especially helpful when the cyclist
can't see the detector loops in the pavement.
We encourage updating the traffic management hardware and software.
We encourage the addition of automated counting of bicycles in bike lanes via
traffic controllers.
#41: Miscellaneous Intersection Improvements
Ongoing Citywide Program
Consider cycling travel paths and signal detection when you do the
improvements.
#42: Comprehensive Plan Update
Ongoing Citywide Program
KBAB expects to help determine which of the shared roadway routes should be
changed to bike lanes or cycle tracks. KBAB thinks we will see a rapid growth in
the number of bicycle riders in Kent as facilities for them improve.
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#43: Channelization (Street Markings) Improvement Program
Ongoing Citywide Program
Is this where we can expect some action on putting a few roads on the "Road
Diet"? A question to contemplate, when improvements are made.
#44: Bicycle System Improvements
Ongoing Citywide Program
TBD<F=
KBAB recommendations for Sharrows began two years ago after the TMP was
approved and are still waiting for this improvement. We hope the use of Sharrows
will begin very soon. This is an inexpensive and very effective treatment for safer
cycling and driving. KBAB would like to see some bicycle distance and destination
signs (fingerboards) be put up for bike riders.
#45: Sidewalks, Sidewalk Repair and the Americans with Disabilities
Act Compliance Program
Ongoing Citywide Program
The sidewalk repairs are badly needed in several locations —they are needed by
the riders that are "bicycle-pedestrians" and ride on the sidewalks. The uneven
surfaces, gaps and patches are a hazard for riders — and in the dark the hazard is
even worse.
#46: Guardrail and Safety Improvements
Ongoing Citywide Program
Keep the guardrails back far enough so that any ride-able shoulder is available to
bicycle riders. See MUTCD and AASHTO guides for setback distances.
#47: Community Based Circulating Shuttles
Ongoing Citywide Programs
Needed by many residents in Kent.
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#48: Railroad Quiet Zone for Downtown Urban Center
Ongoing Citywide Program
Helps preserve the hearing of bicycle riders waiting to cross the tracks when a
train goes by.
West Meeker Street Widening — provide for this by not selling the needed
roadway and bike lane space along with the golf course.
641" Ave s to Russell Road
Dropped??
This is a great project with great bike lanes. KBAB would like to see an eastbound
trail ramp on the south side of Meeker that starts from the Green River Trail and
climbs gently eastbound to this project's eastbound bike lane. If you use the
existing ramp on the north side of Meeker to go eastbound you are riding the
"wrong way" against traffic making an unsafe situation for bicyclists.
Here the grandkids would say "The End".
March 21, 2014
This document is In response to Notice of Application for the Project Permit
#ENV-2014-0/KIVA#RSPA-2140494 from the City of Kent.
These Comments apply to the Kent Valley Loops Trail (KVLT) Master Plan document placed on the Kent
Website on Mar 20, 20114.
From: Mel Roberts, 9421 S 2415t St, Kent,WA 98030, 253-854-0952.
1 would like to be a party of record and receive notices and decisions about this project.
The concept of several loop trails in the Kent Valley is a great idea and should continue to be created.
The individual maps for each trail better define the location of each trail. On the combined map it is very
hard to find each trail.
Names
I like the naming idea for the trails. It would seem like the Rabbit Loop should include the Interurban
Trail which has a large number of rabbits along it.The rabbits are usually seen in the early evening
hours.The Heron Loop should go by the Animal Shelter on the east side of the Green River Natural
Resources Area where the Heronry is located. Look now behind the animal shelter before the leaves
cover up the nests. Herons were standing on several nests on Mar 19, 2014. Many times I have seen
Herons in the Boeing pond near S 199thSt and 59th Ave S. It would be nice if the Heron loop went around
the west side of the Boeing Being pond where I seen Herons watching for food. For the bird watchers
among us the Boeing pond is a treat. Bad news the Eagle Loop doesn't go by the eagle nest that is
located on the west bank of the Green River and can be seen from the east bank of the river where
James Street would go if it crossed the river at the end of James St. Watching the eagles is exciting for
the first six months of every year as they rehab their nest and raise their eaglets.The Salmon Loop
logically follows the river. Should the Frog Loop go where the sounds from the Frog's croaking is
heaviest; and that would be along the Interurban Trail just north of S 2121h St. Note there is a protected
"frog" area in the GRNRA. I would like to see the names to related better to the sights along the trail.
Vision
The vision items extracted from the report and listed below I can fully embrace.
• Improve the trails to eliminate or reduce substandard conditions in access, paving, and
transitions to and from the trails.
• Provide signs for wayfinding and identification of trail features.
• Provide trail access at frequent locations along the trail. Provide parking at access
locations where possible.
My Comments follow regarding the "Detailed Findings and Recommendations"
Finding 1.1 and 1.2—Do provide maps, on paper and on the web, along with signage.
Finding 1.3 Provide direction, distance, and destination signage in the "style" of Seattle bicycle signs.
Comments by M. Roberts on KVLT 1 March 21, 2014
Finding 1.4 As a maintenance item keep the trails mowed and "open" so that "closed in" areas are
limited.
Finding 1.6—S 196th St sidewalks could be used for recreation with walkers/runners going eastbound on
the south side and westbound on the north side. Bike riders can pick the sidewalk or the bike lanes
based on their skill level. In the bigger better world a cycle track with a pedestrian sidewalk on one side
would be great.
Finding 1.7—I fully support your effort to keep these trails.
Finding 1.8—The document identifies: Cost: Costs vary depending on the markings but assume
$300 for each bicycle symbol at 200-foot intervals. You might need 2-4 Sharrows near
intersections but I think one every% mi after that is enough. This is a low volume road.
Sharrows should be used on all the on-road segments.
Finding 1.9 and 1.10—Signage—See 1.3 comment and Signs at Features.
} r , DSCO2394 (10/23/2007 M Roberts)
Portland and Seattle have bicycle route markings about 15" diameter like the one shown above.
I can image that a Valley Loop Trail could have its namesake (Eagle, Frog, etc) in a circle to show the trail
name and a one or two arrows pointing the direction of the trail (out and back), In color?With a little
imagination visualize a brown eagle with white head and tail in a circle of blue sky—nice art work.
Observation—If you want the "Loop"to cross a busy street do it where there is a pedestrian activated
signal crossing (or add a new one).
Finding 2.1 Benches for resting—a good idea.
Comments by M. Roberts on KVLT 2 March 21, 2014
Finding 2.2 1 Agree that we can use Sharrows and Share the road signs.The idea in the sentence:
"Because of low traffic volumes it may be possible to stripe bike lanes and have vehicles share
the space when two cars pass." Is an idea that I've seen used in Europe but not in the USA. Is it in any
US standards? I'm OK with the idea—because it slows traffic and created a "lane for cycling".
Finding 2.3—River vegetation while great for salmon hides the very view that I like to see went I ride
along the river. Can we leave a least a few viewpoints where you can see the river?
Finding 2.4 is very true—the GRT has a corner under SR-167 is sharp and blind.The trail loop over to the
Salmon resting area bridge while a great fix for recreation will add extra distance that commuters would
not like.The corner, below, could be redone on a smaller scale with a larger radius and better site lines.
Larger Radius for safety
Proposed
Current
SR-167 SR-16717?�
Finding 2.6 Bite my lip—is this a design goof? Why would you put the ramp traffic into only the left side
of a divided trail -when riders need to go to or from in any direction in the intersection? I've never seen
this done.Add some greeting signs and leave this trail intersection alone. I might agreed to a rest stop
with rest rooms at this corner.
Finding 3.1 Keep up the work of the Regional Connector Trail.
Finding 3.2 Anyone for murals on the sides of the warehouses like the ones adjacent to the Sounder rail
in the south end of Seattle?
Finding 3.3 Trail underpasses (SR-167, West Valley, Meeker St and S 212' St), are sub-standard for
width and pavement quality and need to be repaired/widen (at least edged and mowed).They could use
motion activated night time lighting—yes, people do ride the trails at night.
Finding 3.4—The cross streets names were painted on the pavement on each side of the cross street at
one time—a repeat performance would be OK. Likewise a street sign, like on a normal street corner
could be put up with the trail name on one arm and the street name on the other arm. Signage of
adjacent facilities/businesses could be done—see 1.3.A rest stop with bathrooms on the Interurban
Trail near downtown would be great. It would even be nice if the restrooms were open until about 8:30
PM for winter riders.
Comments by M. Roberts on KVLT 3 March 21, 2014
Finding 3.5 When you add full service rest stops, alternate installations between trails—one on the GRT
then one on the IU and repeat.
Finding 3.6—I haven't found anyone who likes this detour—hurry up Tukwila and get the River Trail
done. When the new developments in the south end of Tukwila adds 40k people to Tukwila they better
have bike and pedestrian facilities on both side of the Green River.
Finding 3.7—The IU pothole trail needs to be improved for walking and cycling even if it means that it is
closed to vehicles. Might this involve improving the vehicle road or relocating it. Riding in the gravel
that splashes up onto the trail from the vehicles driving through the potholes is a hazardous trip.The
dark bollards are a hazard for entering this trail segment from the south.
Finding 3.8—The steep trail approaches to S 212t" and S 228t" need to be improved with a "flat" spot on
each side of the road where it is easy for a cyclist to restart his/her riding. All signalized crossings need
to respond to the button press by the cyclist within a few seconds or they give up waiting.
Finding 3.9—Signature point and GIRT. If you real want a separated trail then you have to add it by
widening the sidewalk on the south side or creating a full cycle track on the south side. As a cheap fix—
add Sharrows on S 251th from the trail on the east to the trail on the west—but don't add Sharrows
westbound on the south side of the traffic circle.
Finding 3.10 Hawley Rd has been changed in the last couple months to a separated trail (substandard at
8' wide). The Russell Rd problem at James St is stated correctly—FYI there is levee solution on the way
that will add width to the trail and change the trail connections to Russell Rd/James St. (and move the
City shop boundary to the southeast.)That begs the issue of connecting the trail at Russell and James to
the parking lot for Russell Rd Park—which in the future will be the only trail access parking near here.
Russell Rd from S 2315t St to S 212t" St is a shared road for vehicles, bikes, runners and walkers. Note the
document says Ave it should be Street "and Russell Road between S. 231s'Avenue and S. 212th
Avenue.". On Russell Road, I've had a parent come up to me a say"I don't feel safe bring my 5 year
daughter with me when I have to ride in the street." This is a mayor segment of the GRT that needs to
be changed to a separated (from vehicles) facility. Use the levee reconstruction as a stepping stone to
close Russell Rd to vehicles and relocate the road behind (to the east of)the houses. Or put the trail east
of the houses?
Finding 3.11 Document says: Locations where the trail transitions from non-motorized to
on-street have poor sight lines that can affect the safety of the merge
in locations such as the Meeker and 212th bridge underpasses. Note that the north-south GRT trail
does not transition on to a vehicle street at the meeker street underpass. Note only the southbound
GRT transitions to Russell Rd by the KOA Campground—the "old" Russell Rd northbound is now closed
to normal vehicles. Consider putting up stop signs for the cars where the trail use traffic is high and the
vehicle volume is low, i.e., GRT southbound onto Russell Rd.
Finding 3.12—I agree—the railroad tracks that are not close to 90 degrees to the trail should have the
trail geometry revised. I've fallen on one of these and had a friend go down on the IU trail near S212th
St.
Comments by M. Roberts on KVLT 4 March 21, 2014
Why does the document have to change orientation and scale? It is hard to read online.The Page-
Down key skips half of every page after you turn it to portrait or it's so little you can't read it.
Regarding the Toole Design Group letter.
The way finding, maintenance, and bollard placement items are items that when fixed would improve
the trail user's experience.
Page 6: Segment between SR-167 and Washington Ave S—Fix the drainage problem and get the
standing water off the trail.
Page 7: Is out-of-date regarding the section of Hawley Rd by Holmes Electric and LA Fitness—it has a
separated trail in place now.
On the skewed access to the roadway from the underpasses—be careful how you change these—the
nice 90 degree access to the road distracts the ride by having them watch the kink in the road and not
the vehicles.
Page 12: Washington Ave from S251st St (north side of Green River) to Frager Rd (south side of Green
River) Please don't install extrude curb or Flex-post delineators along the fog line—This barrier traps a
rider in the street and causes them to fall if they need to move the shoulder.This shoulder is often full
of litter(glass, sand, etc)that is a hazard to riders—so riding on the street is often better—tis is a
segment for more experienced riders. The second choice is to use the GRT underpass westbound as a
clover leaf to get to the correct side of Washington Ave southbound via S 251st St.
In a bigger better world—there would be a trail on the south side of the Green River from Washington
Ave to the Interurban trail alongside the UPRR near S 259t"St.This would go under SR-516 on the south
side of the river.
The detailed recommendations from Toole Design are spot on for trail safety.The recommendations
address many of the issues that I think should be fixed.
Mel's File:Trails/GreenRiverTrail/GRT-KentValleyLoopTrail2013/ KLVT-NOA-Comments-Mar2014
Comments by M. Roberts on KVLT 5 March 21, 2014
Possible Bicycle Connections
to Historical Kent
Mel Roberts
Kent Bicycle Advisory Board
April 2014
Here are some ideas for connecting historical
locations in Kent via bicycle.
Warning: Use map for routes —
Use brain to be safe.
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Here are the locations, the maps will have this number by the location.
There are 3 maps east hill, west hill and downtown.
1 Suise (Soos) Creek Botanical Garden 29308 132nd Ave. SE, Auburn, WA
2 Greater Kent Historical Museum (AKA Bereiter House) 855 E Smith St, Kent, WA
3 Neely-Soames Homestead 5311 South 237th Place, Kent, WA
4 Mill Creek Earthworks Park 742 East Titus St., Kent, WA
5 Hillcrest Burial Park 1005 Reiten Rd, Kent, WA
6 Meridian Cemetery 27221 156th Ave SE, Kent, WA
7 Saar Pioneer Cemetery 91st & S 212 Way (enter on 212th) Kent, WA
8 Suise (Soos) Creek Cemetery SE 256th Street & 132nd Avenue SE, Kent, WA
9 St. Patrick Catholic Cemetery S 204th St & Orillia Road S. Kent, WA
10 Seattle Pet Cemetery 23646 Military Rd S, Kent, WA
11 Historic Downtown Kent 202 W. Gowe Street, Kent, WA
12 Mill Creek Neighborhood Locations Jason Ave N., E. Temperance St., Jason Ave. N.,
Prospect Ave. N., Clark Ave. N., Alvord Ave. N., E Temperance St., Kent, WA
13 Hydroplane & Raceboat Museum 5917 S. 196th St. Kent, WA
Mel's File: Bicycling-CBC-Rides/ExploreKent/HistoricalKent2014
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