HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council Committees - Lodging Tax Advisory Committee - 02/25/2015 Lodging Tax Advisory Committee Meeting
February 25, 2015
Start Time 4:00 pm
Centennial North & South Conference Rooms
Committee Members Present: Chair Bill Boyce, John Casey, David Kwok, Tim Higgins, Josh
Bang, Barbara Smith, Andrew Hutchison
Others present: Ben Wolters, Julie Pulliam, Ryan Hart, Mary Kae Repp
Chair Boyce called the meeting to order at 4:02 pm. Introductions were made. The Chair
asked for any additions to the agenda. None were added.
Approval of Minutes
John Casey moved to approve the January 22, 2015 minutes and David Kwok seconded the
motion. There was no discussion. Motion passed.
Future meetings will be held on the 4th Monday of every other month. The next meeting will
be held on April 27, 2015 at 4 pm.
Budget Update - Ben Wolters
Wolters just wanted to make sure the committee understands the budget availability for what
Mary Kae will propose. Lodging Tax has around $30,000 under marketing and the committee
has the ability to move money from anywhere within the 2015 Lodging Tax approved budget.
Tourism Website & Maintenance Proposal - Mary Kae Repp
Chair Boyce asked the committee if they have had the chance to look at the website. Boyce
said it looks pretty good, questioning if the hits are being tracked? Mary Kae stated that the
website is still new, is being tracked with google analytics, and is receiving a few hits.
Wolters briefly introduced the marketing proposals, stating that related materials were handed
out at an earlier meeting. The committee wanted to move forward with a meeting a month
later to give Mary Kae and Genesis the opportunity to verbally present to the Committee the
element and material that had been made available in advance to the Committee to review by
Ryan Hart, Ben Wolters and Michelle Wilmot - to allow them to ask questions and get them
answered in terms of some of the details provided from the Q & A and to allow Mary Kae to
address some feedback that came from the Committee at the last meeting. The goal coming
from this is to get direction and approval for some or all of the elements Mary Kae proposes to
the Committee in whatever fashion the Committee feels are acceptable.
Wolters stated that the site is up and running and it is now time to market it. Marketing this
site is a layer that will build into other marketing opportunities that will be considered later
this year; the next logical steps now that the website is up and launched, to meet the desire
for many on the board to more formally expand our marketing of Kent.
Mary Kae Repp presented the materials, stating that at the last meeting, the Committee asked
what a one month glimpse would look like with what is being done with the campaign; how is
tracking going to work? How are the results going to be tracked? and how do we make sure
the $1,500 is going to be put to good use?
Using April as an example, Mary Kae used an assumption that even if it was approved today,
it would take a while before things were finalized and we would most likely not move forward
until April. The campaign would be set up as a brand new website. It will need some
exposure. It will be set up as, here is the attractions in Kent, set up for keywords and the
budget would be divided up as in the proposal; between Facebook, Bing, Google Ad Words, U
Tube, and retargeting. The Committee questioned what was going to happen with those
campaigns? For Facebook, the $425 would be used for separate campaigns in the Portland
Metro area, Northern Idaho, Central Washington, Eastern Washington, and a separate
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campaign in the Seattle Tacoma metro area. What would be said for each area would be
different. To invite people from Spokane will be different then Portland as well as the local
area of Seattle and Tacoma. This advertising will be tracked. Everything (Facebook, Bing,
and Google Ad Words, to U Tube) comes with reporting that will show how many exposures
and clicks happen. It can be crossed-referenced with Google Analytics. For example, it takes
a look at the report for Facebook and says there were 25 clicks, then goes to Google Analytics
and sees if it matches up, to see if they actually made it all the way to the website; did they
check on the website or just Facebook? The same scenario can happen with Bing, Google Ad
Words, etc. They all are able to be cross-referenced; rather than just seeing if it was a robot
clicking or if it was someone pushing all the way through and spending time on the website.
Reports will be completed on a weekly basis and distributed to Ben, Michelle, and Ryan.
Genesis will be analyzing it on a Monday-Friday basis every single day. Until the program is
set up and tried, it is not really know what will work. Perhaps we will get no hits in Northern
Idaho and the hits will come from Portland so that will show that maybe we should pull out of
Northern Idaho and put more into Portland. This is just an example of how it will be
monitored. Adjustments will be made on the information and performance.
The same procedure will be used for each of the applications, Bing, etc. We will make a
recommendation on where we should put the money for the best use of it. It won't be static.
We will look at it on a daily basis not just at the end of every month. Genesis will monitor
each site every day to see how they are tracking and trending and move to where it will be
the most valuable. Most of the time there are at least 6-8 Facebook Ads and 50 to 60 key
words. Depending on the results, keywords or the ads could be changed.
For retargeting, if the Ad that chases you around on the website is not getting results its look
could be changed. People who get on the website will be followed around and hopefully they
will click on the website. The intention is to change it by season, by events, and line up with
the posts on social media, the thing the website is being updated with, so the online campaign
is relevant and matches what will be found on Facebook etc.
Andrew Hutchison asked that a campaign' be defined. Mary Kae explained that a campaign is
no different than television; where years ago we would have taken the $1,500 and run
commercials on TV, now it is online. What we will watch is the clicks that actually spend time
pushing through on the website. That is when we will start moving the money to match up
with the activity. Until then we will have to monitor it to see what works.
Ryan Hart said with the click through, it is nice to see how long anyone is on a page which will
also show which pages are engaging people more. Mary Kae stated that activity will be
monitored daily.
David Kwok asked if Genesis will be able to provide a screen cap at the end of the month.
Chair Boyce stated either Ben or Julie will monitor daily activity and once a month the
Committee will be provided with a summary of what happened each month. Mary Kae said
that is something that can easily be done for Ben. The report will show how many hits
occurred on Facebook, on the website, etc. The general 30,000 view will come on a monthly
basis. Ben can be provided with weekly reports.
Chair Boyce stated that the committee meets every other month. If something is not working,
we will not want to wait 2 months to make changes. Ben Wolters stated that he will work with
Michelle Wilmot, Ryan Hart and Mary Kae on a monthly basis to collectively analyze and make
the changes where we would benefit and report back to the Committee on what was done in
response to the data.
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Chair Boyce said the budget can be moved around but not go beyond the $1,500. Wolters
clarified that no further money will be spent unless approved by the LTAC. David Kwok asked
if the LTAC will meet in August, as it is a busy vacation month. Chair Boyce stated that
regular meetings are set up but adjustments will be made where necessary. Wolters stated
that he hopes for a pretty engaged year. Boyce added that additional meetings can be held if
needed.
Tim Higgins and Ryan Hart are working on ideas for the ShoWare Marketing budget that is set
aside for ShoWare and collectively blends well with what the Committee is doing here. There
will be more decisions for this committee to make as we continue to become more active in
Marketing Kent.
Chair Boyce stated that Kent is having a 125th birthday and that information should be
captured through this marketing website, Wolters concurred. The Mayor has said that some
kind of 6 month celebration will be rolled out pretty soon.
Barbara Smith mentioned that the Mayor will be unveiling the Logo next week and we will be
able to start using it.
Mary Kae stated this would be a good thing for us to feed off of for Social Media and blogs.
Barbara Smith stated that KDP is starting to develop a lot more events in downtown. With the
Pet Walk in April, the Wine Walk in May, the third Thursday of every month will be an Art
Walk. March will be the first one.
Wolters clarified that the annual cost for the online marketing proposal would be $20,700.
The component parts include; Facebook, Bing, Google Ad Words, etc., and would cost $350
per month, with Mary Kae concurring. Mary Kae clarified that the proposal is for a one month
look.
Chair Boyce stated that the Committee is being asked to sign a contract, questioning if we are
looking at a 6 month contract or do we want to get locked in for a longer term. Wolters
replied that we could do a 6-month contract but that this conversation has not been held with
Mary Kae. Wolters stated that a 6-month contract would be one way to go, and the other way
is an annual contract with a 30-day written notice of termination to dissolve the contract if we
are not satisfied or if Genesis was dissatisfied with us.
Wolters stated that he would like to propose a contract to the end of this calendar year with
the terms as presented, which shows a certain level of commitment on everyone to try to see
this through, and recognizing we will be making adjustments. The Committee and Mary Kae
voiced concurrence with Wolters proposal.
Andrew Hutchison asked that if we are proposing $1,500 a month, what happens if the money
runs out on the loth. Mary Kae stated that we will monitor the sites on a daily basis and be
able to see if there is a lot of activity in one place over another. That is when we will report
back to Ben, Michelle, and Ryan, that specific sites are very active and recommend retaining
those active sites and appropriating the money to maintain those sites. $20,000 is a lot of
money but you will see this can disappear very quickly over the course of a month. We are
going way out in the first part of the campaign. The reality is that in 90 days it is likely that
we will narrow it down to two areas and you will be able to see that in the reports. Hutchison
said you will be moving money from one to the other? Either the Committee will fund more
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dollars or stay within this budget and continue to move the money around. The moves can be
stopped instantaneously and change to make something else happen within an hour.
David Kwok asked who owns the pictures and website, and Facebook. Mary Kae stated that
would be Ben Wolters office. Genesis will be running the back end but Ben will have all the
passwords. Wolters stated that Michelle Wilmot and Mary Kae have had this conversation and
the City owns the website.
Josh Bang asked if it was possible to drill down with the Google Ad keywords. He stated that
for example the U.S. Open is happening in June and questioned if will it be tied to keywords
such as 'Golf' or 'Kent' and questioned if it could be tied into restaurants to keep people eating
in Kent. Mary Kae said that is exactly what Genesis will do, but if there are things that you
know is coming to the area or that we should know about to keep people in the area, just
send Genesis an email or let Ben know and we can tailor the keywords for it.
Wolters suggested to the committee that they interact with the website, testing it from their
own perspective. He asked the Committee to direct any ideas to Mary Kae and 'cc' Ben so
that he is informed of what is going forward. Wolters suggested a more collaborative
approach for the website with the Committee's active involvement. He stated that he and
Mary Kae will be very interested to get the Committee's feedback on the building activity and
interest in the website, then the next steps of how it is translating for your business. That will
be the ultimate test.
Barbara Smith asked that if she sends a notice for an event, such as a pet walk in April, is
there a form we could fill out and send to you to make sure we give you all the information
you might need? Mary Kae said no problem. Ryan Hart explained that there are limited
characters for Ad words.
Social Media Proposal Request
The $450 dollars will be spent towards research time, time watching sites for feedback and
responding to public comment, posting on the 4 mediums two times a week, and for social
media fees.
Writer Proposal Request
Mary Kae asked the Committee if they had any questions about Dana Neuts being the writer.
Wolters stated he believes there was a question about frequency, every other month. Mary
Kae stated she felt the writer is needed every month for this year. Moving forward don't know
if we would need more than maybe a blog or two per month, because she is so connected to
what is happening in Kent. This year, we need the seasonal updates, with spring approaching
we need more featured stories on all the things that happen in Kent. The proposal that has
been created is for writing the seasonal text for each of the main pages on the website,
writing a couple of blogs each month and doing an additional story. That is what the fee is
fo r.
In response to Chair Boyce, Mary Kae stated that the fee amount is $526.50 per month, of
which $450.00 is for Dana's writing fee. The annual expenditure for 12 months would be just
over $6,300. Dana will create the 6 main pages on a quarterly basis to line up with the
seasons, doing one additional experience story per quarter, making minimal text updates to all
pages, plus conducting 8 blogs per month. Mary Kae stated that she feels this is necessary for
the first year to help it evolve and all the seasonal writings can be saved and modified as
needed to quickly move forward.
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John Case stated that although the last minutes said we could hold off on the written contents
and the photography piece. However, Genesis is saying it can't be held off.
Mary Kae stated Michelle Wilmot is going to be working on with the departments to get a
photo library together. The website will benefit from being able to use the photo library.
Wolters stated we are proposing to not continue with the photographer which will save money.
Chair Boyce stated at the last meeting, the consensus was that we did not need so much
writing. Mary Kae said with it being a new site, the fact that it has been online for a while and
has generated activity, writing can be cut back. The blogs will help a lot in the back end in
grabbing keywords and getting the experience stories written. Once all of these things are
completed, and when the quarterly seasonal stuff is written, this media can be saved and
switched out. Moving forward text can be changed easily. This would require a one-time fee
to complete this.
In response to questions posed by Chair Boyce, Wolters stated that the total amount is
approximately $28,068 from now until the end of 2015; and Mary Kae stated the only way to
know if we are getting our money worth and that this is working, is every cent is website
driven, so the only metric that is real will be the analytics. There can be some cross-
referencing from the hits and where they come from.
David Kwok said each hotel can offer promotions to attach to the website which will help in
tracking stays. Chair Boyce said it looks like there are some opportunities for the hoteliers
with promotions to make sure there is value added.
Mary Kae stated that with the $500 fee Genesis will continue to monitor ways to get more use
out of the website. One thing that could be done is build something that would fly in on the
webpage that would say "when you call to book your room, make sure you say you called
from the website because we offer additional discounts". This feature would hotel staff to
assist with tracking of the website.
In response to David Kwok, Kae stated that the Committee can give information directly to
herself, and it will be easy to get it on the website. Genesis can create a special landing page
for special offers, a fly-in that will state that there are VIP offers if you call in and say you are
booking through the website.
Wolters stated that this website will service the restaurants and offer ways to connect to the
ShoWare or the T-Birds website.
Motion: Move to approve the budget for the website contract for the Online Marketing
Proposal, Online Marketing Campaign Proposal, Social Media Management, Maintenance
Proposal, and Freelance Writer Proposal. Not to exceed $30,000
David Kwok moved, Barbara Smith 2"d the motion.
Wolters stated as a point of order, $30,000 of the funding will require Council approval to get
going on some of the work to be identified and to move this forward. Genesis can invoice.
Mary Kae stated that all on-line marketing requires payment in advance. Wolters said that we
will use Julie Pulliam's credit card for the on-line required payment.
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Chair Boyce stated we will meet next on April 27
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Good of the order - Nothing
Assignment for the Next Meeting - Agenda and Minutes out a week ahead and next
two meeting dates scheduled.
Next Regular Meeting Date - April 27, 2015 at 4 pm
(Committee will meet every other month on the 4th Monday of the month 4 pm.,
Centennial North & South Conference Rooms.)
Adiournment - The meeting was adjourned by Chair Bill Boyce, at 5:00 pm.
Submitted by Julie Pulliam,
Lodging Tax Secretary