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Lodging Tax Advisory Committee
September 25, 2014
Start Time 4:00 pm
ECD Large Conference Room
Committee Members Present: Chair Bill Boyce, Andrew Hutchison, Blane Webber, Tim
Higgins, Barbara Smith, David Kwok
Others present: Ben Wolters, Julie Pulliam, Ryan Hart, Aaron BeMiller, and Mary Kae Repp
from Genesis Marketing, Bob Lewis-Public
Chair Boyce called the meeting to order at 4:02 pm, Introductions were done. Chair asked for
any additions to the agenda, none were offered.
Approval of Minutes
A motion to approve the June 5, 2014 minutes was made by Barbara Smith and 2"d by David
Kwok. Motion passes.
Budget Update — Aaron BeMiller
Provided a spread sheet of Lodging Tax to date balances including the July 2014 budget to
date including the 2015 & 2016 budgets which will be included in the budget the Mayor will be
proposing on Tuesday. BeMiller stated he thought this was the first time the Lodging Tax
Advisory Committee Members have seen the budget number. BeMiller stated he is used to
having this meeting in July to give the committee the option to approve what is going forward
and make requests for that. If the committee has any changes to be made a formal request
give to chair and Chair can take that and have any Council changes to it.
There is not a lot to say about it. BeMiller stated and he thought it should go quickly. 2015
fund balance; $244,000 in the bank, with that Finance is projecting Lodging Tax Revenue at
about $208,000 that is taking the Lodging Tax estimate from March which was $206,000 and
applying a 1% increase. Which is consistent with the increase Finance is applying for sales tax
and property tax increase. The amount of new revenue Finance is budging for Lodging Tax is a
little over 208,000. If all the revenue comes in and the beginning fund balance of $244,000
would give Lodging Tax a total amount of resources that could be spent at $452,000.
The resources will have off setting expenditures. One thing that is different this year is
Finance is including $10,000 of administration costs, the cost for Julie Pulliam and Ben Wolters
to do Lodging Tax business on your behalf. What this constitutes is less than 5% of Lodging
Tax new revenue and translates to approximately 65 hours of work throughout the year. 1.25
hours throughout the year of either Julie Pulliam or Ben Wolters time. Finance has taken the
cost for either and put it together as 65 hours worth of work that will be charged to the
Lodging Tax operating fund. Boyce asked is that a fixed fee or the base on 65 hours. Would
they need to track their hours? BeMiller responded that Finance would ask them to track their
hours as much as possible. With that information Finance would do adjustments throughout
the year, quarterly. BeMiller stated it is not a fixed fee but Finance determined it is a
reasonable guess. BeMiller asked Julie Pulliam and Ben Wolters talk to that more as to if 65
hours is appropriate through the course of the year. BeMiller stated it is most likely on the
low end of what is done. Boyce asked is the rate the same, the base? Is it a higher rate for
Ben than Julie? BeMiller stated it has been blended. Finance took the cost put it together and
determined the cost per hour, so it doesn't matter which one is working, it is a blended rate
for that purpose. Chair Boyce asked for questions. David Kwok asked what is the thinking
behind now charging for staff time, it has never been charged before. BeMiller stated the
thinking is what Finance is trying to do is get a complete cost in the supporting fund. Finance
wants to capture the expenses that truly are accountable for the Lodging Tax operating fund.
It doesn't have to be charged and it has not been done in the past and it will be a change in
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practice. If the City is contributing work time through hours and staffing then Finance would
like to capture that as well as the true cost for the Lodging Tax program.
BeMiller said with adding the staff time we should be able to say the cost of this program.
Wolters spoke to the issue - it is a practice of other Cities and County do, but it is something
we have not done. It is something that we do not do. It was a policy decision many years
ago to have General Fund support it. Wolters stated the City is at a place with the overall
budget were we are looking for cost allocation in every nook and cranny and this represents
that.
Barbara Smith stated if 65 hours is spent over 12 months, especially this year with all the
Branding overall that seem kind of inexpensive.
Chair Boyce felt the fee was minimum and always looking from input from the Committee.
Wolters replied Julie and I will be doing time sheets related to Lodging Tax.
Hutchison asked if this is an estimate or a set amount. What if they go over 65hours? Boyce
stated there will be $10,000 in the budget that is my understanding. Wolters stated we have
to justify it for the auditors with the time sheet; some days will be lower than others
depending on what Lodging Tax is working on.
BeMiller continued what Finance has done for the 2015-2016 budget is carried forward the
amounts Lodging Tax has budgeted in the past for the particular service areas. Seattle
Southside budget $60,000 in both years. Unallocated amount for tourism is $20,000 in each
year. Tourism is $18,500 in both years and all categories are consistent with previous years.
ShoWare Marketing $60,000 and Branding Activities $20,000. For a total expenditure of each
year of $188, 500. In 2015 if all goes as stated Lodging Tax fund balance will increase by
$20,000 because Finance is estimating $20,000 more in revenue than we are estimating in
expenses. And in 2016 the fund balance will increase an additional $22,000 that is if we
spend as this budget reads.
Barbara Smith asked BeMiller said this budget was based on this year first 3 months of
Lodging Tax money coming in, but in the summer the occupancy would be up so would not
the revenue go up? Chair Boyce asked which account is the work Genesis doing coming out of.
Wolters stated the Branding Activity. Wolters recalled we took it out of 2013 but none of the
2013 amount is showing as rolled over. Mary Kae replied we have not invoiced yet for any of
the expenses. Wolters stated that none of that is reflected here. Boyce asked should it be,
Wolters replied yes. There is a budget move that is not showing here. Wolters stated this is
generally correct but in the sub accounts we are missing some detail and will work with
Finance to make those corrections. Chair Boyce asked to update the budget and send out to
everyone so we can all be up to date. Wolters stated we will update and show that detail.
Webber asked that the Southside heading was removed but is still showing and should no
longer be the heading. Wolters stated that is correct and this does not show that correction.
Wolters stated all Finance has done is take over the old categories and repeat them onward, it
reflect Lodging Tax current position or contracts and policies. For example that is showing up
in year to date for July. Wolters is curious about where the $4,648 comes from for Seattle
Southside for 2014 year to date. Under this accounting that is about $55,000 not spent and
will not be expending it to Seattle Southside. That $55,000 then would fall into ending fund
IJ balance for 2014 Wolters fully expects that $243,000 would be approximately almost
$300,000 BeMiller clarified if the Committee does not spend to what the 2014 expense shown
the fund balance will increase. Wolters clarified Chair Boyce request to update the budget.
Finance needs to get through preparing the Mayor's budget in October and after they get past
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that Wolters will circle back and get the budget updated for the Committee. Chair Boyce said
it is nice to have BeMiller at the Committee meetings and help to get the budget tighten up.
Chair Boyce asked for questions on the budget. No questions. BeMiller asked Wolters to give
him a call and they will go over the budget. Wolters stated he feels the key question for the
Committee is for the 2015-2016 budget Do you want to take the $60,000 and reallocate it
somewhere else this would be for Councils consideration this would be in the Mayor's proposal
but we can change these through the City Council to be adopted by the version of the final
City Councils budget. Smith stated she would like to see what kind of expenses will be coming
from Genesis as well as other expenses coming up looking at going forward may be more than
what is on here. We don't know what are choices are right now so Smith is fine with putting
this budget through and then take a more detailed look later. BeMiller stated we want to try to
budget as accurately as possible but if things don't line up exactly as long as the budget is not
over spent it will be fine. You can over spend in one account line as long as the budget is not
over spent. Kwok interjected why don't we just move it to Tourism Unallocated and let it sit
there till we need it.
Chair Boyce asked are we completely through with Seattle Southside? Wolters replied he did
have a conversation with Katherine Kertzman on continuing on a minimal level of contract
support and her response was she has a new board and that she would get back to Wolters
from a Board Policy decision by the end of the year. So that is where Seattle Southside is.
Chair Boyce said so if we move the budget to Tourism Unallocated it would still be there for
tourism needs. Chair said he is good to leave it to Tourism Unallocated. Boyce asked the
Committee if they would like to move it all or leave some in Seattle Southside. Smith stated
Seattle Southside is tourism work and it would still fit under Tourism Unallocated. Wolters
confirmed to move it all to Tourism Unallocated. BeMiller state from the Committee there
needs to be a motion to adopt, and then the Council will formally make the change for the city
budget. Wolters and BeMiller will provide that information for the final budget approval.
Motion: Move $60,000 from Seattle Southside account line to Tourism Unallocated in 2015-
2016 budgets Barbara Smith moved, David Kwok 2nd, Chair asked for discussion, no
discussion motion passes.
Andrew Hutchison asked we allocated $60,000 for ShoWare Marketing and it doesn't look like
anything has been spent. Tim Higgins stated it has not been spent yet. Hutchison asked what
you think ShoWare will need for next year. Higgins stated $60,000. Wolters stated if the
Committee recalls it is money to support and promote shows that would generate heads in
beds. Wolters said we don't use it till we have the right opportunity. Chair asked when it is
going to be used it is brought to the Committee to talk about it. Higgins stated yes it would
be brought forth to the Committee.
Motion: Move to approve the 2015-2016 Lodging Tax Advisory Committees Biennial Budget as
amended by the Committee Barbara Smith moved and Blane Webber 2nd, Chair asked for
discussion, no discussion, motion passes.
BeMiller requested next year we do the budget with the Lodging Tax Advisory Committee in
July. Makes sense to have it earlier in the year.
Brand and Logo Sponsorship — Ben Wolters
Wolters brought to the Committee a request from staff for the Committee to sponsor a Brand
use at the Economic Development Council of Seattle and King County Annual Economic
Forecast Conference in January 2015. This event will be held at the Washington Convention
Center with an 800 plus attendance. With leading political and business leaders from the 4
regions of the County. It is an opportunity to present Kent as a place to invest and do
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business in a way that is supported by our new Brand and approach. The suggested level of
sponsorship is the Executive level and it costs $5,000. The type of advantages are a
discounted placement in the Puget Sound Business Journal, all marketing materials and
website for this event would have our Brand on it, at the actual event our Brand would be
presented in all the presentation slides, opportunity of Mayor or Council Member to do an
introduction, the City will have a table for 10 at the event. Wolters interest in this is a high
profile regional events at has a lot of businesses there. If the Committee chooses to use
Lodging Tax dollars to promote Kent to the larger business community to attract more
investment that indirectly leads to more heads in beds. Wolters feels this is a great
opportunity. Smith asked is this also about launching the new Brand. Wolters responded yes
it is this is a high profile regional opportunity to do that. Blane Webber asked is the
conference attended by Economic Developers from just around this region. Wolters stated the
primary pool is from the 4 County regions, some that attend from other communities in
Washington State but most are from the 4 County regions within the Puget Sound Region.
Chair Boyce asked did we talk about splitting the $5,000. Wolters stated yes we could do a
split of $2,500 from Economic Development and $2,500 from Lodging Tax. Smith stated what
she liked is in order for us to get a trademark for our new Brand we have to show we are
using it and this shows that as the most public thing we have used it for so far. KDP has
made banners, but this will reach a whole lot more people. Wolters stated from a Regional
perspective this could be a roll out and from a Regional perspective our kick-off. Smith stated
we need to make sure it is done right. Mary Kae Repp stated depending on who you pick for
your personalities on your website, you could have two or three of them at the table at the
event. Chair Boyce asked for questions.
Ryan Hart asked are there other sponsorship levels that could net a similar return. Wolters
said the next level down is $2,500 and the next level up is $15,000 and that is to sponsor the
whole event. If we were going to do a big roll out that would be one way to do it. To do a roll
out with opinion leaders and decision makers in the Region, but at this time we have been
doing baby steps and $5,000 gets us pretty prominent placement. Higgins asked what we get
for $15,000. Wolters replied we would get more in the Puget Sound Business Journal and a lot
freer placement of sponsorship. The Puget Sound Business Journal does a special insert which
is in the paper. And much more presence at the event. Chair Boyce said this could be a big
kick off, a moment and a chance to make a big statement in front of a large public audience,
so why not do it right. Wolters is planning on presenting certain properties in Kent, and
business opportunities and highlighting the past investment recently made like Amazon, Blue
Origin, etc., to say things are happening in Kent, take a look. Smith asked if Lodging Tax did
the full $5,000 then Economic Development could use what was being considered and make
the marketing material. Wolters said none of what he is suggesting is for use to make
marketing materials.
Wolters asked for clarification of interest in the Lodging Tax Committee sponsoring the
$15,000 level? Chair Boyce said that is what he was thinking and asked for conversation.
Wolters will check on exclusivity. Mary Kae added the $15,000 is the sponsorship then there
would be $3,000 - $10,000 to make it look good, different things to hand out people to be
present, the look of the booth, and to make sure everything lays out correctly. Boyce asked
for clarity the total expense could be $20,000 plus. Wolters stated on the Economic
Development side we have some ability to do some of that. From a Lodging Tax perspective
Wolters thinks it is more about the base $5,000 or $15,000 to be looking for. Wolters would
need to come back to the Committee for anything above or beyond that. Chair asked for the
Committees opinions. Ryan Hart said it is a bit of a jump from $5,000 to $15,000 it would be
nice to see a list of what we would get for that level of sponsorship. Wolters proposed to
email the whole committee the comparisons of the different levels and let's have that the
bases of an email conversation. Wolters will explore if the Committee can do a vote via
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conference call. Andrew Hutchison asked who will be in the audience, who will you be rolling
this out to. If it is other Cities how is that useful for business wanting to relocate? Wolters
clarified it is top real estate representatives, the banking community in the region, Boeing,
Aerospace; it is a healthy cross section of the Regions business community and political
leaders of local jurisdictions. David Kwok stated he is not too familiar with the EDC. Chair
Boyce tabled this until more information is sent out to the Committee from Ben.
Question from Bob Lewis Studio 37 designs public audience. January 15 you are going to start
a new marketing campaign through the holidays and be ready in 3 months. Wolters replied
no, that is not correct. It will be a marketing effort related to the event. Wolters feels it is all
doable by January 15, 2015; some of the material is already ready to go. Lewis asked where
he can go to see the new logo. Wolters replied you can contact me and I will get you a copy.
Lewis was handed the items at the meeting showing the logo.
Tourism Website Tour — VisitKent.com
Branding & Marketing- Mary Kay Repo
Mary Kae led a website Demo and review. Mary Kae stated that all of the items the
Committee wanted change have been changed. If there is anything that has been missed or
Genesis didn't understand this is the time to make those corrections. Smith had a couple of
questions about the photos used, under Sports Nut the photo shown is a concert photo, it
should be a sports activity. Higgins agreed the photo on Sports Nut needs to go under
entertainer. Hutchison interjected he disagrees with the deletion of the photo of Mt. Rainier.
Mary Kae said the photo is on the website but it was taken off the main slider because of a
concern we were position ourselves as to close to Mt. Rainier. Chair Boyce stated the
Committee would like it put back in. Smith brought up the dinning photo being a photo of the
T-birds, needs to be a dinning photo. Recreation has a picture of hockey, needs to be skaters
and action and it is a dark photo. Under Arts and entertainment we need to get Mary Kae
some photos to use with people in them. Mary Kae stated we really do need a new photo
library; we have three options for you. Smith asked what is the tab Games for. Mary Kae
shared it is what is available to do in Kent, maybe Games is not the right name for the tab.
Smith handed out the brochure for the historical tour of homes in Kent to use on the museum
tab. Chair Boyce asked about a photo of the race track, Mary Kae answered yes there is a
photo of Pacific Raceways. Hutchison asked do all the photos have to be in Kent. Will you get
Museum of Flight, please add it, it is a huge attraction. Wolters likes the relationship of Kent
with the Aerospace industry. Smith said under the My Trip Suitcase it shows a photo of the
Sounder and it looks like the only way to get to Kent is the Sounder train and it seems to limit
the vision of how people can get to Kent. Mary Kae said we should just have a really good
photo of Kent. Under attractions there is a photo of Earthworks there should be a better
photo.
Mary Kae asked the Hoteliers if they like their page. It is in alphabetical order. Mary Kae
stated the photo behind the site should be less busy and there are 5 images that rotate now.
Once the library it would be nice to change out every month but right now it will be every
quarter. This page is 100% live it can be stumbled on but it is not being promoted. Hart
notice a glitch it is opening 2 tabs. Mary Kae will check in to it. Webber asked if it opens to
the actual hotel page not the corporate page. It can open to any page you wish. Hutchison
said he has newer phots he would like to use. Mary Kae said email the new photos to her in
the highest resolution and she will get them updated.
Smith said she did not notice the new logo on the website. Mary Kae noted it is at the
bottom. Initially it was at the top but the request was it was too busy and taking over. It was
agreed on big photos and the logo on the top would interfere with the big photos. Mary Kae
asked if there is anything else from the Committee members.
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The next phase of decision Mary Kae was hoping to take away from today's meeting was a
decision on our 5 people and a photographer and writer for the website. Smith submitted 5,
Foodie - Susanne Cameron or Harpreet Gil; Entertainment-Mike Miller; Outdoor -Andrea
Kiekkala; Family Fun Seeker-Brandy Dollerhide; Sports Nut-Greg Huffner or Libby and Dave
Sidel. Chair Boyce brought up diversity reflection as stated in the Brand. Smith suggested for
Foodie Randal Smith, Larry Cameron. Mary Kae asked for other suggestions. Hutchison
suggested Paul Raftus. Entertainer, Sam East Hill business owner. Mary Kae suggested
someone who goes to all the events, Tim Higgins suggested Dana Ralph or Jim Berrios could
be in the Foodie category. Chair Boyce set this as homework to bring back names to the next
meeting. Mary Kae replied this is a good start, if I can contact and get their photos on we can
get this going so we can start marketing the site. The five people that sit there direct
everything about what the campaign is going to look like. They dictate everything. We could
get started with these people. Then we need to decide if this person is going to stay on this
site and start looking for the WOW person. Like a Seahawk player or Sounder player that
lives in Kent, or went to school in Kent. We could have a WOW person a person that lives in
the area but we would really market the WOW person. We will start contacting both people to
see if they would be willing to do it and what the cost will be. Hutchison asked what about
people that travel here frequently for business. Mary Kae said that would be great also, send
her the names.
Chair Boyce asked is this enough to go forward, Mary Kae said yes she will take this forward if
the Committee is ok with the names.
Wolters wants to encourage the Committee to continue to send names to Mary Kae. Mary Kae
will update the Committee on what each of the representatives say. Chair Boyce asked Mary
Kae to send out a list to the Committee of who goes in what category the Committee put them
in.
Mary Kae presented a couple of things that were asked for at the one-on-one meetings.
Looking for a photographer and a writer to do the blogs and to keep the site current and
relevant. The request was to find someone that is in Kent and has a good handle on Kent and
what is going on. There are 3 different options. Genesis recommendations would be to take
Ross Coyle as a photographer, Dana Neuts as the writer. If we could use these two that would
be good, the fees are reasonable.
Wolters agreed as the staff person on the committee. Genesis will write contract with each to
be approved by Ben Wolters and Julie Pulliam but include an out clause for timeliness and
performance. Mary Kae will move forward in writing up a contract under these proposed
dollar amounts. Photographer fees see attached cost estimates for Ross Coyle and Dana
Neuts.
Next is managing and maintaining the site. Genesis has put in a proposal to maintain and
send out email, $350/month. Proposal details attached.
Wolters asked to be reminded of the current fee associated with the current hosting of the
site. Mary Kae responded $30 to host. At the moment that is all within the $25,000 current
contract. These are the only charges that will be associated beside the contract that has
already been approved for $15,000.
Hart asked does the Committee agree it is necessary to do monthly, at $350 a month for 1
year is $4000 to manage only one page.
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Smith noted that will depend on how many businesses respond to the email. If there are
more than one it would be worth it if only one not so much so maybe we should do it for a
couple of months and see. Chair Boyce suggested 6 months at first. Mary Kae said the
agreement could be written to adjust to the use of the different business. It is not a fixed rate
it can be adjusted we wanted to do it monthly ideally, but it depend on what we are receiving.
Chair Boyce asked to write it quarterly at this point. Mary Kae agreed and will write the
contract to allow flexibility in with in the quarter for some reason if it is not working we can
readjust. Wolters wanted to make sure all the business in Kent are included and reached out
to.
David Kwok said if we are going to be successful everyone will want to get on the website.
Maybe in the future we will need to think about charging. Smith said this is something we can
look at down the road. Chair Boyce asked what else is needed to Mary Kae. Mary Kae felt we
dealt with all the items. Chair Boyce asked are we ok to go forward with the website.
Committee Agrees to go ahead with the website.
Hutchison had a question on the monthly fees. Is this ongoing every month. Mary Kae said
after the first year will slow down except for special events we would send them to. The
writer would be ongoing.
Motion to approve the Lodging Tax Advisory Committee accepts the final design of the
VisitKent.com website created by Genesis Marketing and authorize going live with the website
launch, Andrew Hitchison moved and Barbara Smith 2nd, Chair asked for discussion, no
discussion, motion passes.
Chair Boyce asked for an estimated dollar amount. Hart said he would like to see the monthly
numbers and costs broken out, if the budget is $20,000 annually the whole budget could be
spent on one month. Chair Boyce asked if this should be tabled till the next meeting.
Wolters would like to suggest one is tied to the other. On the writing it is what keeps the
website fresh and the key component, on the photographer can Mary Kae suggest a not to
exceed amount. Mary Kae responded yes. Chair Boyce asked the Committee to get back
together on October 9th. Smith wanted a note in the minutes that the Committee Members
who cannot make the October 9th meeting look at the budget and give feedback that would be
read out loud. Wolters asked Mary Kae what you need this moment to implement the motion
that just was pasted to get the website live. Mary Kae stated the specials are not as
important at this moment as the writer and photographer. If we could get approval to hire
Dana Neuts for the next 12 or 13 months to finish out this year and next year at the fee she
has proposed that is so important at the site, Dana is just over $2010 and $990 for Ross
about $3000 for the launch.
Wolters staff recommendation is a motion to approve$3000 expenditure to start up
Photography and copy to get the website up and going and the committee gets a new
proposal for follow up and maintenance.
Motion to approve $3000 expenditure to start up co
py and and going and Genesis will get the committee anew p opo sal foorfol owyup andto getthe ma nt n a cep
David Kwok moved and Barbara Smith 2 , motion passes.
Meeting adjourned 5:35 pm
Good of the order — Nothing
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Assignments for next meeting - Bring back people's names you would like to see as
the personalities on the website.
Special Meeting Date - October 9, 2014, 4 pm Centennial North & South Conference
Rooms - Cancelled
Next Regular Meeting Date - November 20, 2014 at 4 pm
(Committee will meet every other month on the 3rd Thursday of the month 4 pm.)
Next regular meeting will be 6/19/14
Ad'ou ent - Them-e-qtirig was adjourned by Chair Bill Boyce, at 5:37 pm.
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mitted by Julie Pulliam,
Lodging Tax Secretary
Minutes approved at the meeting of November 20, 2014