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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council Meeting - Council Workshop - Minutes - 08/20/2002 . COUNCIL WORKSHOP MINUTES August 20, 2002 COUNCIL MEMBERS: Leona Orr, filling in as Chair, Tim Clark, Connie Epperly, Julie Peterson, Bruce White, Rico Yingling The workshop was called to order at 5:10 PM. COMMITTEE MINUTES Councilmember Leona Orr made a correction in the memo included with the packet: "Currently the City Clerk's office prepares transcripts of council and council committee meetings. " Ms. Orr said that was incorrect; Jackie Bicknell does the minutes for all of the Council committee meetings. City Attorney Tom Brubaker noted that she was correct, and that the City Clerk prepares the minutes for the council meetings and Jackie prepares all of the minutes of council committees. The question arose of how thorough the minutes had to be of council or committee meetings. Mr. Brubaker said another way to pronounce minutes is minute. They don't have to be long or extensive. They only need to be a brief summary of the events that transpired in a meeting. We're going to work at shortening the minutes particularly of the council committees. The one instance where you need to have a verbatim record is for a quasi judicial transaction, a sight • specific rezone, or any number of quasi judicial matters that come before the Hearing Examiner and occasionally before the council. A verbatim transcript is kept, usually in the form of an audio tape,but it can also be a video tape. It does not have to be a written transcript of the transaction. Anybody involved in a quasi judicial matter in the city can order up a written transcript, but they have to pay for it. When it comes to minutes of the council and committee meetings, they can be brief. Leona Orr commented that Jackie spends a lot of time doing minutes. Eleanor transcribes them and actually types out the minutes pretty much verbatim and then Jackie goes back and edits them. There's got to be a better way when we're looking at budget issues and ways to help trim the budget—as long as we still get the information and as long as the minutes are kept, and if there's ever a question we're able to go back and look at the tape. It doesn't seem like we need to have pages and pages of written minutes. Councilmember Julie Peterson questioned how that would help the budget. Ms. Orr said that if Eleanor didn't have to sit and transcribe the minutes,that would mean there were hours that she could be spending doing something else and it might mean the other person didn't need to be hired. Julie Peterson asked what else Eleanor would fill her time with and what her job description was. Council Secretary Jackie Bicknell responded that right now Eleanor was answering phones at the front desk for the City Clerk's Office, as well as typing minutes from the tapes. There's not a lot • of time budgeted for her but all of her time is being paid for by the Council budget. She's Council Workshop,8/20/02 2 needed in the Clerk's Office, which means that it is difficult to use her upstairs to do some of the • things that needs to be done such as filing. Eleanor also keeps a record and destruction log of all of the past minutes. Basically her duties are to do whatever the Council Secretary doesn't have time to do and to be there at the front desk. Julie Peterson remarked that it didn't sound like Eleanor's time would be reduced, but just that her job description would be changed, and there wouldn't actually be any savings of money. Ms. Bicknell confirmed that Eleanor's time would not be reduced because the City Clerk's office needed her for even more hours than had been budgeted for her and they didn't have any money in their budget to pay for more hours, and there would be no savings of money. Leona Orr concluded that there would be a citywide savings if Eleanor was able to do some other jobs. For example, in the City Clerk's office, another Deputy City Clerk, which is a position that's on hold right now, might not have to be hired if she was able to assist them and make their lives a little better without impacts to the budget. She said she was looking at using existing people in the best way possible, and right now transcribing the minutes verbatim on reams of paper is not in the best interest. Chief Administrative Officer Mike Martin added that we often run into situations where a division or department hasn't been allowed to fill vacant positions, that when somebody is sick or has a flex day coverage is needed for the front desk so somebody can take a lunch hour and then it costs some lag time, which is another version of overtime. One of the paramount issues in the Clerk's Office in its present location, is that somebody must be present to greet the public when they walk into the building. These people, in addition to answering phones, often on an • extremely regular basis are directing people upstairs, to customer service, and that sort of thing. In general,we are short of staff down there, there's no question about it. We occasionally see it show up in this lag time issue where people can't leave to take their lunch and that sort of thing. It certainly would be a help, there's no question about it. Julie Peterson asked if there was money in the Clerk's budget to pay the person to not be on the council budget but to be in the other division budget. Mike Martin said there was not. Nothing in that budget has been rebudgeted. Ms. Peterson asked how three hours of lag time a week for Eleanor would be paid if the council has money in their budget to pay her but yet another department needs her and they have no money to pay her. Mike Martin said that often her time is split or she happens to be there typing the minutes so she can greet the public. Julie Peterson questioned whether the council budget was still paying for Eleanor no matter where she was. Mike Martin confirmed that it was. Finance Director May Miller clarified that if it was found that Eleanor was being used in different ways, payment could be transferred from one department to another. Councilmember Bruce White questioned if Eleanor was part time. Mike Martin said she was. Mr. White wanted to know how many hours a week she worked. Jackie Bicknell said that about 10 hours a week was budgeted for her at $10 an hour,but when she moved to the Clerk's Office last fall, she got an increase in pay to $12 an hour. Ms. Bicknell said she didn't know where that extra money was coming from as she didn't have anything to do with that. She concluded that it could very possibly show up on the Council budget as a minus figure. Council Workshop,8/20/02 3 . Councilmember Connie Epperly remarked that Eleanor, was actually a part time person but still worked a lot of full time. Ms. Bicknell said that she had been working full time last fall when there was money in the City Clerk's budget for her to be there over the 10 hours per week that the council budget was paying for. At the beginning of this year,that changed and she is now only working 10 hours a week. However, she is gone some weeks on vacation, so there are days she's able to work more than 10 hours to make up for the weeks she was gone. Julie Peterson wondered what the change would be to the perception of access to the minutes or public information. Mike Martin said the audio tape could be made available to people that are really interested in a particular item on the minutes. A place could be provided for them to listen to the audio tape. If there was an issue that Council was particularly interested in having written down, that could always be accommodated. Experience is that a lot of time is spent on putting the minutes together and there is very little demand. He said he could see where a particular issue might need to be highlighted and taken more at length. I suggest we try it a couple of weeks and we can always go back if the public doesn't like it, if the council doesn't like it, or somebody else doesn't like it. Leona Orr said that some time back there were committees where no minutes were ever produced because there just wasn't the staff to do it and somehow everyone managed to muddle through and nobody ever seemed to complain. The video tape or audio tape was available if there was a question. If you compare the minutes from our Council meetings to the minutes from our committee meetings, they're about one-fourth of the information, and I've never heard anyone from the public complain that those minutes were inadequate. They give you the topic, • results, and highlights of who's spoken, and if you need more information, it is always there to go and get. I was just interested in looking at being more efficient from our office standpoint as to whether or not the Council really cares if we have three pages of minutes or if it could be reduced down to one. Tim Clark suggested putting the minutes on the web under Archives. Kent Station Video Mike Martin showed an informational Kent Station video. Economic Development Manager Nathan Torgelson said that there was a lot more information on the City web site and that a flyer with Kent Station information had been put together for hand out. Secure Community Transition Facilities Planning Manager Charlene Anderson said that the Secure Community Transition Facilities were to provide living arrangements for sexual offenders who are ready for conditional release from a total confinement facility such as that located on McNeil Island. The living arrangements would be less restrictive than those in total confinement but the residents would have supervision and security, and there would be a provision for treatment services. The state requires the city to establish a process for siting secure community transition facilities. The city cannot, according to Growth Management Act,preclude the ability to site such facilities in the City of Kent. At their July 22nd public hearing, the Land Use and Planning Board recommended forwarding a"No • Change"recommendation to the city council regarding secure community transition facilities. Council Workshop, 8/20/02 4 Staff s recommendation was to allow the facilities only in the Gateway Commercial Zoning . District. (Detailed information can be found in the council workshop packet.) Deputy Chief Chuck Miller expressed his concerns that if such a facility were to be located in Kent, that during heavy traffic times, the response time would be longer. He said there are about 120 registered sex offenders in the City of Kent already, and it would be better if the City made the decision on where the facility would be located than to have someone else come in and say where it would be sited. Elizabeth McNagny, Department of Social and Health Services, said the department was looking for one site in King County that would eventually hold 12 beds. If a community decides that they will not look at amending their Comprehensive Plan and Development Regulations to allow for the siting process, it would make them subject to preemption under state law. The statute is very specific in outlining a whole list of criteria. Once a first round of possible sites have been identified, the DSHS would start working with the local governments,whether or not they had the process on their books that allows for siting. A public hearing process is built into the statute and required by law, and if there isn't preemption, an appeal would be through the normal process. There is a special process for preemptions. Charlene Anderson said that staff was looking to move the issue to the full council on September 3`d. • The workshop adjourned at 6:23 PM. Council Office 2nd Floor, City Hall 220 4f Ave. South, Kent, 98032 PLEASE SIGN IN �h� DATE: Name Address Phone Number .411tUiq 5 70� C Luc dy/Z-