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MARCH 7, 2000
COMMITTE MEMBERS PRESENT: President Leona Orr, Sandy Amodt, Tom Brotherton, Tim
Clark, Connie Epperly, Judy Woods, Rico Yingling
STAFF PRESENT: Dena Laurent, Brent McFall, Kevin O'Neill, Don Wickstrom, Joe Mitchell,
Linda Phillips, Lori Flem, Jacki Skaught, Fred Satterstrom, John Hodgson,Jim Harris, Chris Miller,
Marty Mulholland, John Hodgson, Tim LaPorte, May Miller, Sacha DesJardine, Chris Coughman,
Dan Meeker, Dea Drake, Roger Lubovich, Jackie Bicknell
PUBLIC PRESENT: Kurt Jacobsen, Kathryn Schwarz, Val Batey, Pat Curran, Carol Vass, Linda
Johnson
The workshop began at 5:03 PM.
Develoyine a City Brand
Jacki Skaught, Economic Development Manager—As you all know, Kent is a growing and
prosperous city. It becomes more and more important that we develop our own identity and that we
manage that identity to our benefit. To do that we decided that we needed to go through a process
that included community involvement, both business people and community residents, in the process
of developing our own brand. So we brought together a group of people: Carol Vass, Kent's Arts
Commission; Patricia Loveall, Kidder Mathews Segner; Andy Wangstad, Sir Speedy Printing; Kathy
• Madison, Best Western at Golf Course; Cindy Reishu, Continental Mills; Denis Law, Puget Sound
Publishing/Kent Reporter; Dena Laurent,Govemment Affairs Manager; Gary Gill, City Engineer;
Dea Drake, Multimedia Manager, Heath Fugate, Multimedia; Lori Flemm,Parks
Planning/Development Superintendent; Linda Phillips, Planner; Jacki Skaught, Economic
Development Manager.
This group worked through a process to arrive at what you will be seeing and hearing about this
evening. To present that to you,Denis Law is going to walk you through part of it and then Kurt
Jacobsen from JayRay Consultants, who was sort of our shepherd and led us through, and Carol Vass
will cover the content of our report.
Denis Law—What I'd like to comment on is that I thought it was a very fruitful exercise. We got
together and had the opportunity to discuss a lot of the things that businesses do on a routine basis—
that is do a self-analysis of what's good about your company, how can you improve it,what do
people think of it, how can you change that perception, and that sort of thing. So through that process
we had the opportunity to sit down and just discuss what Kent means to each of us and when you
hear the name Kent what comes to mind? We talked in great length about the fact that there are a lot
of perceptions, some of them brought on by the former"Almost Live", some from the realities of life.
A lot of them aren't based on any kind of fact. I think part of the goal was to try to identify what the
attributes are for Kent, what Kent can offer and does offer on a regular basis, how that can be
marketed to the public at large and to the people who live and work here, as well. Through that we
had a lot of discussions about the types of things that came to mind. I enjoyed the process because I
• was coming from the outside.
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When I started my company in Renton, my initial plan was to do exactly what we have done and that
• is to produce a community newspaper in Kent, then in Auburn, after I got going in Renton. Things
were moving along,but I had no contacts really in Kent and my perception was there wasn't a sense
of community that existed here. I didn't know anything about the school district. My vision of
downtown was Central because you have to drive on Central to get to the racetrack, or whatever the
case may be, and so I really didn't know anything about Kent. I knew there were lots of apartments.
I assumed that there was lots of crime. I knew there was horrendous traffic problems. So, if
somebody would ask me what I thought of Kent,those would have been the first things that would
have come to mind when I'd talk about it. When it was time for us to expand our business, I truly
considered going to Auburn first to start a newspaper there because, for some reason, and I don't
have any concrete data to explain why I felt this way, I thought there was more of a sense of
community in Auburn. In my business, the ability to have a cohesive community and a real sense of
community is very important. So, through the due diligence of deciding where I was going to expand,
I had the opportunity to meet people in Kent and I got the chance to drive around and see there are
parks. When I went to the downtown area, I was jealous.
In Renton we really have nothing to look at and downtown Kent had come a long ways since the last
time I was down here. When I had the chance to meet Brent(McFall) and Mayor White and some of
the council members and other department heads in the city, I realized it was a tremendous city. This
is really a well run, well-greased organization. The school district was tremendous. I got involved
with the superintendent and other people and was very impressed with what was going on. I, too,
was really surprised that Kent School District was the 4th largest in the state. I was able to determine
there clearly was a strong sense of community here. There were a lot of attributes. There were a lot
of things that Renton wanted to achieve that Kent had already completed. Renton is going through a
marketing image campaign to try and sell the things that they have to offer. But I think that what was
missing, and what fueled my perception, was the fact that I didn't have any facts to change the
attitude that I had. I think this process offered the opportunity to sit down and collectively put on the
board all of the gold stars that Kent has to offer. To try to come up with a way to improve on the
image and develop some way to communicate with people who live and work here and to educate
people outside of the community on what Kent has to offer. I think, in a nutshell, that they have
collectively come up with something that looks very, very good.
I feel very strongly that it's very important for people who live and work in a community to feel
proud of that community. Oftentimes, even if you live and work in it, you go down this same path to
work every day and you don't realize all of the things that you have right at your fingertips. You
don't realize, unless you're utilizing those resources on a regular basis, what amenities that are
available. I think it's very important for people to feel really good and feel proud about the services
that their tax dollars are going to. That they have a city that is user friendly that cares about the
services that they are providing to the people. I think more than ever now that's very important.
People need to understand that the city isn't just primed to collect taxes and quietly spend it wherever
they want to spend it. They really are conscientiously behind the scene trying to provide the best
possible service and people don't see that. They see their tax bill. From the region at large, I think
it's important from an economic development standpoint, that everybody is trying to scramble to get
quality businesses that provide quality jobs and provide a stronger tax base so that the people who
reside in the community don't have to pay the whole tab.
• There are three areas from a marketing point of view that we concentrated on. That was, trying to
establish a position- What's Kent's position? - In other words, Renton's position is that"They are
ahead of the curve". What does that mean? It could mean almost anything,but they feel that they
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are progressive. That they are user friendly to developers. That it's a great place to live and work
and so they felt that the notion of Renton"Ahead of the Curve"encapsulated what it is they are trying
to do. By using that brand, it would fit in with all the different things that they are doing to market
themselves and to try to attract new businesses and employers to the region.
After a lot of deliberation and discussion about the multitude of things that we believe are the pluses
of Kent, Connecting for Success was a tag line that we thought was all inclusive for what happens
here in Kent. It involves the international trade that goes on here, the collaboration between
government, the community, school district, and the business community. We thought that if you're
coming up with a tag line, that you could explain even on a department letterhead, that we're
Connecting for Success so it applies in almost any kind of application you want to use.
Promises. There are a lot of promises that city government and other institutions are making on a
regular basis and it was important to come up with something that was not only believable but
something you were going to follow through with. Maybe this is a little bit safe and ambiguous but
the line, "Kent will help you succeed"again fits in with a lot of things that are going on. Personality.
The notion with personality is you want to develop something that people can visualize, adopt and
believe in, and we came up with the idea or maybe the summation that "Kent is embracing, vital, and
energized". We broke down all the positive elements that probably ran six or eight large sheets of
data, into those three categories
Councilmember Tom Brotherton—I have the concern that the phrases, so far, imply potential and not
achievement. Not that it's not already there. And brands are important. Every one knows what
Coca-Cola does. They produce big products but no one would ever buy a police car from them. The
brand becomes you and it associates with you, and as you say here, you're going to be stuck with that
brand for a long, long time. Do we always want to be regarded as having potential?
Denis Law—That's true. I don't think that you're going to want to run a logo that says Kent will help
you to succeed, although there will be some applications in which that probably applies and it will
have a lot more meaning in that particular use. I think it depends on the applications of certain
phrases and brands that are ultimately important, but right now there's nothing. I think that the three
important elements are that it is believable, truthful, honest, and you could back it up with something
if somebody were to challenge it, like you just did.
Jacki Skaught—Our brand, Connecting for Success, infers continual progress. We know that we
connect with others for success but the world doesn't think of us that way. You could use the words
We're a Helpful City, We're a Partnering City. I think the group, as a whole, felt that by using the
phrase, Connecting for Success, we not only referred to potential, that we will always be doing it,
we've been doing it,we're doing it today, but that we will continue to do it and I hope that by
potential, that's progress. We're not ever going to just stop and say, we're there—this is what we are
and just stop. This is meant to be moving and going forward, not to be finite. It may change because
another phrase comes to mind that more accurately depicts where we're at in another point in time,
but the image of Kent as a city that helps people to succeed,both with business and personally,has a
very long life span and one that we would, hopefully,be reinforcing for a long time to come.
Consultant Kurt Jacobson—We've never done work with the city,but we've done this branding
process with all sorts of companies before and some non profits like United Way and Regence Blue
Shield on the commercial side. We look at a brand, kind of what you stand for, and when you add all
this up, it is something that you want to really start sinking in, in one or two years,because it takes
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time to build up. When you have really good economic development prospects, people that you want
downtown and so forth, in about a year or so this is starting to become very real— that you're
connecting them to make them successful here and you're connecting people within the community
to be successful, whether its raising families, enjoying recreation, or whatever. One of the things that
I really wanted to mention is that we have the luxury of being outsiders. We have an office in Seattle
and one in Tacoma, and it was a real eye opener coming to Kent. I've got to say that all of the
elements that are here, about connecting for success and the personality, are very true. I was startled
about the community image group in the city's desire to collaborate on things. I hear all the time that
this is going on. Wasn't there a young child that got a program going for the homeless? The fire
department was in, and it was on television, and these are true reflections of how Kent connects
people for success. How you do it with regional planning and so forth and the fact that the school
district was the only school district sponsor of a major technology future classroom deal. There is
Kent,right up there along with big corporations. So, this is all really very true.
There is real strengths in brands. One of the reasons we'll talk brand, and I know the concept of
marketing in cities seems a little weird, is that brands really help people, and so if we have a good
economic development prospect, it's a real shortcut to know what you stand for. You don't have to
explain for two hours what's good about Kent, if you do it right. Then, send enough messages to the
news media, use themes and the logos and the marketing materials and it adds up to connecting
people for success. When you walk in and say we've got some great opportunities in downtown
Kent, they get it right away. How are you going to help make that work,because you say you're
going to help connect us to the right people to make this work? One of the things I want to say is that
this is probably one of the truer brand opportunities we've had to work on.
• Government Affairs Manager Dena Laurent—The way that we've been talking about this is as an
economic development theme. We have talked for a long time in the cities about how we don't do a
very good job of telling our story. So the theme and the messages work, not only for what we're
trying to do in economic development but also for what we're trying to do as municipal government
in connecting with our community.
Carol Vass, Arts Commission—It was a very good process to go through. There were a variety of
business people. I'm probably the only retired person on this image group. Literally everybody who
lived and worked and were business people were strong proponents of the business aspects of Kent
but also the family and schools. All these fed into this phrase we came up with, Connections. There
really are very, very strong connections. One of the things that Kurt recommended that we think
about was the image of our communications as a city. The city communicates all over the place with
all of the publications and everything and it's all kind of spotty. The Arts Commission has its logo,
and the parks department has theirs, and then there's the very traditional Kent Invicta log. Kent has
changed and it's going to continue to change. We went through a whole kind of professional graphic
arts design process of coming up with this logo and its quite wonderful. There's some tweaking to
still do to it with colors and letters but it's a real dynamic change. It reflects the change within our
little city. It reflects the connectivity of the city. Some people can even kind of honor the horse
because that seems to be a horses tail. There are people that value that tradition. It could be a road,
house,business, mountain, and river. You can just go endlessly into these subtle little distinctions.
But this is quite a wonderful design and it reflects in an abstract way, Connecting for Success. I think
• you would be wise to adopt it and use it in all of your communications.
It's a very fine design and it's a very strong dynamic design. If you took this little piece right here
and put it on that board with Nalley, Diet Coke, and apple computer, if you put the old Kent logo
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there and you put this one over there you would see this one. May not know what it is,but you
would see it. It would not be a blob like that City of Puyallup or that City of Tacoma. It would stand
out.
Dena Laurent—We want to come up with a common pallet, so just today we were talking about the
values of green and blue. We started thinking that it looks an awful lot like Federal Way. We're still
working with these colors to find colors that will work with some things that we already have in
place, but that we can use in a standardized way throughout the city. We're sure open to your
feedback on colors.
Multi Media Manager Dea Drake—It can change over time as well. The image is strong enough,
even if we change the color tile or modernize it, it can change. What is really nice about this logo is
that it is so strong. This logo is extremely strong in black. It's vibrant. And an important part of the
graphics process was to make sure that this logo could be used in a single color by itself and it would
still hold up. Some of our earlier ones were wonderful in color but when you got them into this black
they didn't do well.
Dena Laurent—There are two really important points. One, if we really want to capitalize on the
power of this branding, then the branding has to connect with a visual. If you hear words that don't
match pictures, you just look at the pictures. So if we look at the old logo and the new themes I
wonder if we lose the opportunity to really capitalize on new themes. Second, the logo development
was done in partnership with our consulting firm designers and with our own designers, so there was
a lot of talent brought to the table but we didn't just let the designers go nuts. We got down to 8
logos and we tested them with more than 30 people inside and outside the city, including people who
• don't even know Kent on the map, to see how true both these messages were and to see how true the
logo was and how people reacted.
One of the challenges we have in the way people react to the current logo is,what is that? Is that a
horse? And we heard this in the communication survey several years ago. Is it a horse? Is it a
unicorn? And further, its use inside the city varies significantly. You've seen it in lots of different
colors. Sometimes the horse is this way and sometimes the horse is that way. So going to a new
image gives us an opportunity to standardize that look. My piece of this story was to tell you that if
this is something that you feel good about, our work has really just begun. The fun part is now over
and everything is implementation. You can make up nifty stuff but really our work will now begin
with the city organization. How do we infuse those messages into everything that we do, everything
that we write, and how do we use this logo to unify these ten subsidiary businesses that we run called
the local government?
7acki Skaught—The only decision we've made for sure about implementation is that it will be phased
in. We're not going to go through everybody's office and throw out everything with the old logo and
spend money. Recognizing that there isn't money to throw away,people will use up their letterhead
and then the reprint will be with the new look. We'll just phase it in. The Gateways Project that is
going on will incorporate it in other things. It will be a gradual process.
Councilmember Tim Clark—My concern is, as we make the switch from the old to the new, the
strong basic colors are more identifiable from a distance. One of my concerns is the multiple colors,
• such as the one on the right,because the report says that the city vehicles are the easiest way to get
the advertising out in front of people. The different color tones do make it harder to recognize unless
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it is stationary where you can actually focus on it. There is a distinct advantage in going to the far
. left in shades of blue, as such.
Dena Laurent—Point well taken. I think that's exactly the implementation issue I was speaking to.
We have to decide what parts of the palette work really well for specific applications,knowing that as
we meet with different departments, they will also have specific needs and we will need to work with
them to achieve that.
Council President Leona Orr—The only thing I would make a comment on is that I am with Judy.
Although I didn't dislike the horse, I like this very much. I'm not an artist or any professional of any
kind or anything else, but looking at Connecting for Success is truly how we have worked in Kent,
how we have done business in Kent and how I hope we will always do business in Kent. I think we
have that reputation. It has been there and will continue to be there. When I see three different
colors, the red dot sort of disconnects it for me. For me, that sort says the solid color one is kind of
flowing. I could see it if the red dot were changed to a greenish tone or a bluish tone depending on
which one of those I'm looking at, or even it were a little different, darker or lighter, at least it's kind
of all in the same range. The red to me sort of blows it up. This is the first time I've seen it.
Dena Laurent—Tell us what you think in a couple of days,too. The red, for many of us,meant Kent
is a destination. We are on the map. Carol Vass—And we saw it as sort of a point where things
come together. Dena Laurent—It does draw attention to the lettering.
Councilmember Sandy Amodt—Did you try black with a red dot? Black is very striking. When I
walked in the room that was the first one that came out. I don't know what black represents to
everyone, but to me it represents powerful, determined, and strong. Nothing negative. To me it's
stability. The two tones are very nice, but as Leona said it kind of disconnects you as you look at it.
You have the two different colors. Did you try dark blue with the red dot? Dena Laurent—I think
we've tried everything. We're not done with the color palette and I know many of our designers are
here to hear your ideas.
Councilmember Judy Woods—When do we see it again? Jacki Skaught—We started out to give
each of you your business cards tonight. Dena Laurent—In terms of implementation, as we finalize
the color palette and you all have a positive reaction to this, I think immediately,beginning late in
April, we can begin to us this on our city newsletter masthead that appears in the Kent Reporter, on
our television station and our website, and then we will start to work on getting the applications right
for all of the other uses.
Sandy Amodt—Have you reviewed the cost of changing over the vehicles? Dena Lauent—We
haven't gone there yet. That is part of the implementation and part of the importance of saying to
you there isn't extra money and we will be doing this very thoughtfully. We buy a lot of cars a year
so with some phasing on the new cars,we think we can get there in a relatively short period of time
without a lot of cost. Brent McFall—I think the only thing we need from you is, if you collectively
were of a mind to say no, then its back to the drawing board. But if you like what you see, and you
want us to go ahead and put things in final form, I think we can take that from tonight and move
ahead.
. Leona Orr—Is there anyone that doesn't want them to continue on and bring us back a more finished
product? Rico Yingling— I like the red dot. To me it does say connection, that's connecting these
two things. But the other thing is I want to know what you're going to do with this with the promise
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and this tag line. Jacki Skaught - We screened the phrase Connected for Success on the bottom of the
• letterhead. That's one way. Rico Yingling—I don't mean that. I want to know how you're going to
ensure that Kent will help you succeed. What you're going to do with that promise and not where you
are going to publish it. If we're going to have a promise that Kent's going to help us succeed, then
we need to do that.
Director of Operations Brent McFall—To begin with, that's the kind of thing that gets incorporated
into the mission statement that Dena is heading up a task force to work on and to bring back to you.
That's the kind of thing that gets incorporated into our values/philosophy that we talk about with our
staff—in our training—and it becomes not only a tag line publicly, but it becomes a tag line
internally. We'll train against that. We'll evaluate against that and really incorporate that into our
business philosophy and values. And that's how you have to make it work, otherwise its just a line
out there. It doesn't mean anything.
Councilmember Rico Yingling—And it's a very powerful one. I mean, Kent will help you succeed.
Let's work with Kent. Jacki Skaught—That's the reaction we're looking for. From my perspective, I
want them to want to work with us and connect with us and connect here. Kurt Jacobson—The
reason it's so powerful partly is that talks to one person. If that one person wants something from
Kent or needs some help, it's really one on one. Cities never talk one on one. This is so personal. If
I came in and I saw the theme and I wanted to do something here with an arts organization or get
something started, that means Kent's talking to me and is going to help me do it some way or
another. They are going to care and help make it happen.
Tom Brotherton—The people who came here,represented us and talked about the unity, is this a
• consensus of what all the customers really felt, they came together on this and said this is the right
way, or were there minority opinions? Carol Vass—That's exactly what happened. Jacki Skaught—
It was an amazing process. Carol Vass—Everybody knew each other, except maybe the city
employees. But,the outside people, that's exactly what happened. It was a consensus over several
meetings of really thoughtful work. Denis Law— Including interviews with a bunch of people in our
part of Kent that might move here or bring businesses here.
Downtown Projects Update
Jacki Skaught—Kind of a spin-off or an extension of what we've just talked about—developing a
brand and a set of key messages in a new image—is part of presenting a positive image of Kent, and
developing a vital and active city center is another. Attractive well-developed facilities downtown
facilitates economic development and at the same time builds that sense of a connected community
that we've just talked about. Tim LaPorte is going to talk about downtown street sidewalk
improvement, Lori Flemm will talk about the Gateways Project, and Val Batey from Sound Transit
will talk about the Commuter Rail Station Area Study, John Hodgson will talk about the Performing
Arts Center.
Design Engineer Manager Tim LaPorte—These are maps of the planned downtown sidewalk
improvements for this year. I might note that this year's project is rather extensive. It includes all of
41h Avenue from Harrison down to Willis Street. Essentially,what drives the Downtown Sidewalk
Replacement Project is liability. We have a lot of trip and fall accidents on the cracked sidewalks. In
addition to improving the image of cracked sidewalks and curb and gutters, we will also be
overlaying the street which tends to clean things up,pull it all together and make it operate a lot
smoother. There are also some drainage problems that will be addressed, especially right out in front
of City Hall here on 4`h Avenue. In addition to 4`h Avenue, you'll notice where the Kent Market is,
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we will be upgrading Railroad Avenue significantly, also Meeker Street, and Central Avenue on the
• west side between Meeker and Smith. These projects, I used to think five years ago when we started
the first one, they would be simple. I've since changed my mind completely. Compared to our
corridor project they are also very difficult. But we've worked very hard at building consensus with
the Downtown Partnership and bringing everything all together.
Tom Brotherton—Are there still plans to go ahead with the all cross intersection down Smith and 4`h?
Tim LaPorte—Smith and 4`h, we did look at the traffic for that project and essentially we can't make
any improvements in that operation the way it is right now. This project is overlaying 4`h to Smith but
we're not changing the pit operation. Brent McFall—I think, Tom, that is another project and
whether or not it even is feasible really needs a lot more work.
Parks Planning and Development Superintendent Lori Flemm—If you look at the map Tim just gave
you, all the gateways are indicated by a square with a"G"in it. There is one gateway that's located
off this map and that's at the corner of 4`h and James. The Gateway Improvements include
intersection and crosswalk improvements with pedestrian scale lighting at key intersections in the
downtown area. The gateway intersections are 4`h and James and 4`h and Willis. All the others on 4`h
and Central are the key intersections that we've identified. Pedestrian scale lighting at those
intersections. Rico Yingling—What does that mean?
Lori Flemm—Light, instead of having those "cobra heads"up on top of the pole,we're going to have
lights that are lower on the pole,possibly eight to ten feet above the elevation of the sidewalk. It will
provide more light for pedestrians. Give you a feeling of safety. If you walk in the sidewalks now at
nighttime you'll go through a lot of light, dark, light, dark, and this will add more light eventually.
iRight now we're just doing the intersections. Judy Woods—But the idea is to do all the lighting,
over time?
Lori Flemm—What we're hoping to do is select a light pole or standard and signs, so that as we add,
and as Tim does more sidewalk replacement projects, everything will be the same. The portals are at
I-167 overpasses. Directional signs identify how people get to the Regional Justice Center, City Hall,
Police Station, and Library. Because our gateway center overlapped with Tim's sidewalk
replacement, we're working together and we're going to put the project out as one bid. We hope to
get it out to bid with construction starting right after Cornucopia and ending by Halloween. What
we're looking at doing, in the crosswalk pattern, is keeping the same concrete scoring pattern and
running the concrete through the street. So for the pedestrians, it'll appear as though they're still on
the sidewalk as they cross the street. Now where we have mastic on the crosswalk, it will be
concrete. In the center of the square formed at the intersections, where Tim's overlaying with two
inches of asphalt resurfacing,we're going to use a product called glassfalt. It's recycled glass, where
you use about 20% of glass instead of the aggregate, and the effect that you have is that it sparkles.
So the center of the intersection, if it's sunny out or nighttime, it picks up a sparkle from the light and
it's real attractive. It makes use of recycled materials, which we're hoping to promote, and it bears
traffic well. We're looking at that product to kind of spruce up the downtown area and call more
attention to the intersections. We haven't selected a light fixture yet but we're looking at the logo
and trying to work those into the gateways and the light fixtures. We want our own unique identity.
Val Batey, Project Manager for Sound Transit Commuter Rail Station—This is the site plan of Phase
. I, which is under construction today, and the site plan of Phase II that we hope will be under
construction at the end of the year. We've completed the demolition of the Burdick Feed Mill and
Burdick Retail outlet, and are filling in the holes so they don't become rainwater collectors. We hope
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to be under construction very soon. That's our basic station, so that we can begin service to the Kent
. Station along with other stations in the valley. Our startup date is scheduled for September 18`h, 2000
with three round trips a day for our initial startup, and ramping up over the next year and a half to
nine round trips a day. This phase provides us with about 300 parking spaces for the initial startup
phase. When we go into Phase II we will be building the parking garage, as you know, and that will
have at least 680 parking stalls in it, possibly more. We will be actually surplusing one of our
parking lots at the northeast corner of Smith and Railroad. Then,the parking lot that is going to be at
the northwest corner of Smith and Railroad will be designed to be a plaza, which will provide the
connection between the station area and the city's parks and the downtown core. So that's going to
be a really important design process in the Phase II design.
The parking garage we plan to do through a design build process. We plan to go out for bids this
summer to get that built quickly and cost effectively. Some of the other things that will be part of the
Phase II, will be building 2"d Avenue from Smith Street up to the extension of Temperance and also
completing Temperance Street between I"and 2nd Avenues. So,we will have a whole system of
streets around the parking garage there. Part of the Phase II design will also include a pedestrian
bridge, which will connect the parking garage to both the commuter rail platforms with elevators and
stairs. It will make it possible for people to cross from one platform to another without crossing the
tracks, as well as to access the platforms from the garage easily. I wanted to congratulate the City of
Kent in their successful bid for grant funding for that pedestrian bridge. It was money that Sound
Transit could not compete for in this grant process. The City of Kent put together a grant application
and was successful in getting the money that I think will take care of the design and construction of
that piece of the station. That's a nice demonstration of the partnership between Sound Transit and
the City of Kent. Dena Laurent—There's that Connecting for Success. Brent McFall - Val is being
very kind. Sound Transit did the legwork and we put our name on it.
Tom Brotherton—One of the things that we talked about in the long distance task,was perhaps some
retail space in the parking garage. One of the attractive ideas that was bandied about was the
possibility of putting some day care connecting with the train station. I know the city has to clear a
federal grant and a lot of kudos for having that sort of facility associated with their train station. Any
plans for the future that might indicate something like that, or do you know any possibilities that we
could help pursue in that area?
Val Batey- One of the things that, through the technical advisory committee that's been assisting us
through the design process for the station and for the garage, was we came to a point where we
decided that for cost effectiveness we were not going to achieve what we needed by including the
retail space in the actual garage structure. Because of the property that Sound Transit has acquired
for the garage location, we have an opportunity to leave a path for future development for
commercial space or for something like a day care facility. So we have the potential there. We have
done some real preliminary market analysis looking at what would be the demand for that type of use
there. It hasn't looked really great,but we feel like we have the flexibility there. We have the
potential there that, if that demand was to become a reality, we could accommodate it there. We
have quite a bit of space set aside that could be developed for commercial and it happens to be
located on the west side of the garage, which we think is a great location for future commercial
development. It could be supported also by the performing arts center across the street, so we think
there are some dynamic possibilities there.
Brent McFall - One of the things that Val has touched on that has been a beneficial result of this
process as we originally looked at having some retail spaces, they were on Smith Street facing Smith
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and one of the things we finally came around to, and I think Linda Johnson is adamant in pointing
this out, is that they were going to stand-alone and would not be successful. I think that as design has
progressed,just leaving the space, the path for that, on 2nd Avenue facing the performing arts center,
adjacent to what might be future redevelopment, the Borden property is a much more potentially
profitable site.
Parks Director John Hodgson—I'd like to update you on a couple of things that are happening with
the civic and performing arts center. As you are aware, they are going through their private funding
campaign right now. The steering committee has been selected. They're making a number of calls
and it's kind of the quiet time. They're approaching the major contributors and you're not going to
hear a lot for a while, but that is happening and they're having some successes. The board pledging
was just outstanding and we're very encouraged by that. A few of the people on the performing arts
center board and the city are meeting with the Sound Transit Technical Committee as it relates to the
garage to figure out where exactly are we going to place this thing on the property across the street of
2nd—one of the challenges we're facing as we get ready for schematic (and we're probably a month
or two away from getting into schematic) where we really finally design the building.
What you see here is a general idea of what it would look like. The picture on the front page is as if
you were standing at the library looking across the street. The second page shows you a little bit
more of where it would sit and the lay out. What will probably happen is that we'll move a little bit
further north because, more than likely, there'll be a turn pocket on Smith. As a result of that, we
have to push that a little further north and also, to get on the property that we own, we need to do that.
The challenge that we have is where's the front door? Is the front door on 4th? Is it on 2nd facing the
garage? Or is it facing Borden? And that's going to be a real challenge for the architects to figure
out. Today Smith is the perfect front door. It could be that if Borden develops the way we think it
might develop, that's the front door. Also the fact that Smith is such a heavily used corridor, we want
to make sure that when you're on Smith, when you look at that facility, you see activity. You see
people walking through the lobby and it says, get out of the car. Go in there and see what's
happening. Probably in the next six to eight weeks we'll enter into schematic design with the
architect,paid for by pledges made by the citizens.
Senior Planner Linda Phillips(passed out handouts)—Includes a brief summary of the process. The
second page talks about the market analysis. The project is proceeding pretty much as we planned.
We received the funding. The Planning Department asked for some money to do some proactive
planning. Since we are going to have a commuter rail station, since there were some actions in the
Downtown Strategic Action Plan that we could work through and work out in detail by doing some
transit oriented development analysis. That started with an update of the market analysis and I think
you are familiar with the earlier ones and this is based on the earlier one. It does verify that all of the
assumptions made in the earlier ones are accurate. There's growth, population over what the
projections were previously, that economy is generally doing well and the uses that were projected by
that are still valid. The next sheet that you have in your packet is some work that was done by
Michael Hubner in the Planning Department GIS that identifies vacant and redevelopable sites and
gives you a good analysis on the 2n page of just how much property there is. It appears to be
possibly available for redevelopment. There could be even more,depending on the market, if a
developer is willing to buy property.
• Rico Yingling—What does "vacant in a commercial zone"mean? Linda Phillips—That's the amount
of vacant space in a commercial zone. If you're finding something that you don't agree with, we'll
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work on it. Rico Yingling—It looks like the Borden property there has red and pink in it. So red
• means redevelopable and pink means vacant.
Linda Phillips—It was the criteria we based it on, and what it means is that there is some
development there, and then the vacant—there is nothing over$1000 located in that area. Even with
windshield surveys and walking around downtown to verify what we got in GIS,we can still have
something that doesn't quite jibe. Probably you will recognize the uses that are shown. These are
sites just within a 1,500 foot radius of the station. We also did work on sites further up, to give a
really complete picture of downtown. The site that the L &M Architects (who've worked with other
developers and who've done similar kinds of things in downtown situations),was working with and
found most attractive and intriguing, was east of the railroad that now has some very small houses
there. They're mostly converted to small businesses.
The municipal parking lot is shown here with the convention center and a hotel and of course the
Borden site. They did show some others down here,but didn't draw potential uses on those yet. The
real bones of this is the street system. We feel that no matter what happens with uses, if a developer
comes forward and is interested in developing, he'll work with various retailers. They may say they
want their building to be in a different place. Kent would say they would want them to stay in almost
the same place because we worked with Public Works Department. They sat down with Don
Wickstrom there and talked about just what happens with traffic circulation. It's very heavy on
James,making it so this street would angle,which also makes a very attractive pedestrian streetscape
to 4`". A nice strong connection here to the rail station. Some work done down here on how the
whole thing would relate to Smith and make a very strong connection through 2°d down into the
existing commercial area. All along we've had such a concern about what's going to happen to
connect those spaces. Development on the municipal parking lot would help that as well and start to
connect it and make it one downtown.
Housing is in this corner and along with the market analysis and with what we're seeing in the region,
the wisdom of the development scenario is that residential is a very important element to get
downtown. It gives the basis to get those retail uses and the other uses that we want and keep them
strong. It's both housing and building an attractive, convenient venue that will make more uses come
in,more retailers come in, and the businesses work together. What we have left to do is, Mariah
Associates, a transportation/engineering firm is looking at the details of traffic circulation and will be
coordinating with the public works department to fine tune and make a recommendation that you will
receive in a report, maybe in June. Then Ataleyea PS, which is the landscaping architect, will make
some complete recommendations for streetscape and we're really looking forward to that because
that is an exciting part of the project.
Sandy Amodt—After all is said and done, is there a forecast as to how much money this will actually
bring to the city and to businesses? This is nice,but what's it going to do for everybody? Brent
McFall—Let me give you an example of some preliminary estimates that are based upon similar
types of developments that have occurred in recent years, in both the Puget Sound region and the
northwest. Just to take the Borden property as one example. We do have a truly unique opportunity
that no other city has and that is that we have a 17 acre site immediately adjacent to our existing
downtown, under one ownership, that is ready to redevelop. Now, there's a lot of things that go into
• making that happen but in a simple statement, that is ready to happen. We now, as the City of Kent,
receive less than $50,000 a year in tax revenue from the Borden property and it is property tax only.
We don't get anything else. A mixed use, residential, office,retail, entertainment use on that same 17
acres, with the kinds of square footage we're talking about would probably generate to the City of
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Kent alone over$400,000 a year in property and sales taxes. Doesn't take very long. Bear in mind
that means that those businesses located there are doing that kind of business to generate that kind of
tax revenue to the city. That's the kind of energy that it begins to create in downtown. It's very good
for the City of Kent in terms of things it does for us in an area where, by and large, the infrastructure
already exists. The other thing it does is it creates energy and a synergy,not only in this area,but
also in the existing downtown area. So we would anticipate that it wouldn't necessarily be all the
same retail mix that you currently see in downtown, but over time you would see stimulation and an
upgrade of that as well.
Sandy Amodt—What you're saying, without actually saying it, is that the sales tax and generations of
other types of monies would pay the property back. My concern is taking the citizens tax dollars to
purchase property. I'm assuming this is going to be a co-partnership with these businesses. The city
owns the property. Brent McFall—One of the things that we have learned from the experience of
others, consistently applied, is that in some way the city has to be a partner in this. I know, for
example, that Mr. Yingling and Mr. Clark attended a session of the Highline Community College
where a number of developers talked about these kinds of projects. That doesn't mean that we have
to be a long-term property owner. We might have to assemble the property and prepare it for
redevelopment,but it's fairly easy to factor in where's the payback and what is payback? And if it
makes sense, you do it. If it doesn't make sense, you don't. We think that in the work we've done so
far, and there's still a lot of work to do, that we're going to be able to bring you something that makes
sense to you and that makes you say yes. Not only does it work from the standpoint of what we want,
to create downtown,but it works from an economic standpoint and, frankly, if we can't bring you
something that works from an economic standpoint, I wouldn't expect you to do it.
Sandy Amodt—My main focus would be a payback. Sort of like the Saturday Market. It's paying
back. Brent McFall—This has the potential to do a whole lot more than that. The Market right now,
I think, has tremendous potential and is going to certainly generate some revenue to the city, but its
greatest potential, I think, is just in the activity level that it creates. This has the potential to create a
downtown environment that the Market will benefit from, the existing downtown will benefit from,
and generate a whole lot of revenue.
Tom Brotherton—The places where I've seen this development done very well is when there's
construction that supports each other and doesn't clash. I was wondering about the necessity for
starting on working on architectural standards for downtown more than we have now. Is it too soon
to do that? It seems like some of the decisions here are not that far away? Brent McFall—I think
you're right. Linda Phillips—That should have been another issue to update, that we do have a set of
design guidelines in much more detail than we've had in the past. We were just waiting for some
transit oriented guidelines to add to this, and then those will come for your approval. That will
probably be only a couple of months.
Brent McFall—Another part of that is, depending upon what role the city ultimately plays in helping
make it happen, we may have the ability to say to potential developers here's our conceptual plan.
Give us a proposal that we can approve, a development substantially similar to what we buy, and so
we may have the ability to exercise a bit more control over that than you would just in the typical
private development scenario. Rico Yingling—Any progress in the legal government help for
• downtown redevelopment? Brent McFall—Yes. Rico Yingling—Is that going to happen, do you
think? Brent McFall—I feel pretty comfortable that it will happen. We have, as you know better
than any in dealing specifically with the Borden property, that we're dealing with corporate officials
who are very interested in doing something that works for them. It has to work for them and they are
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sort of relying upon us to show them how. So there's an education process as well as a legal process.
But if I were just betting on it,I'd say there's a good 60-65%chance that it will happen. My gut tells
me it's more like 89%.
Rico Yingling—My question was really about a state law to do downtown redevelopment. Brent
McFall—Taxing, financing isn't going to happen. But one thing that has happened that's good news
is that the ten year tax abatement for housing law has passed and that could become an element in
making this kind of project work. Rico Yingling—How much of the project could be part of transit
development? Are you thinking the whole thing could be part of a transit? Brent McFall—I think
what we're looking at is that it is all linked together. It's transit oriented, the kinds of things that
Linda has shown you,that this scene in particular is sort of a linkage. Here is the station; here is how
it opens right up to the station and the bus traffic that will come into the station as well. But we also
can't lose sight of the fact that we're still an automobile oriented society and we're going to have to
provide for that as well. One of the neat things about this is if you're trying to get into an 18 hour
downtown, or ultimately 24 hour downtown, the kind of parking that our partner, Sound Transit, and
we are developing is an early morning to early evening use. That frees it up,then, for some more
parking intensive kinds of uses like a performing arts center or a cinema that really benefits from that
relationship.
Leona Orr—I think we should bring this back for a future workshop and have a more detailed
discussion. I know there's a lot of material in here that none of us has seen. I'm sure once we see it,
we will have questions and I feel bad that we're rushing through this tonight. So, I think we'll plan
on rescheduling this issue for a fixture workshop.
Brent McFall—As we progress, specifically working with Borden, we'll need to advise you of some
things on that as well. Some of that may be executive session material and some workshop.
The workshop adjourned at 6:18 PM.
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