HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council Committees - Public Works/Planning - 11/13/1995 Tames Street - Paul Mann
Wickstrom said that Paul Mann had requested staff to develop costs of constructing a
fifth lane in James Street from Central Ave to 100th Ave., He noted that this is a very
rough estimate and the numbers came out to be $3 - 4 Million dollars to put in a
continuous left turn pocket thru that gap between Central &- 100th. Wickstrom noted
that Paul was interested in discussing this with Council. In response to Bennett,
Wickstrom said that this would involve right of way and included the purchase of some
houses by the City. Wickstrom said that the issue here is whether or not Council wants
staff to continue investigating this matter. Clark felt that when we open the 196th
Corridor, it will reduce traffic on James but only until more build-up occurs on James.
Clark asked if there was any alternative to provide the Church with an access point on
the backside. Wickstrom explained that the Church has an access on Alvord which they
negotiated, acquired and built themselves so they now have a secondary access.
Mann stated that he would like the Council to consider another turn-off lane and is $3
Million to much to consider to resolve this issue? In response to Clarks question
regarding redirecting traffic on James, Wickstrom said the east leg of 228th would give
some relief and S. 196th is only going across Central Ave, which is scheduled to open
in 1999, if we resolve the street utility issue. Clark stated that he would make a
recommendation that we stop the study when it becomes evident that it will become
more expensive than whatever we agree is the minimum line.
Committee unanimously recommended authorizing staff to investigate other alternatives
for road access off of James Street however, when any exploratory avenue adds up to
more than $2 Million dollars, it should be stopped at that point.
218th Street Condemnation
Wickstrom stated that on 213th Street we essentially acquired all the right of way with
the exception of the Trammel Crow property now known as the New York Life property.
Wickstrom said that at this time, we are asking for authorization for the City Attorney
to prepare a condemnation ordinance, should we need it.
Committee unanimously recommended authorizing the City Attorney to prepare a
Condemnation Ordinance for the New York Life property on S. 218th Street.
Communications thru the Public Works Dept - Tim Clarlc
Clark said that from his standpoint, it is very clear that some of the Engineers are
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somehow not"on track" in terms of what it is we are trying to do in the policies that this
Council is trying to carry forward. Some form of summit meeting does need to be
planned. He further stated that we have enough trouble tying to get the City to work
with,the size of the annexation and so forth. We cannot afford, as we try to deal with
some of those things, to have unclear communication. Clark asked for a meeting
sometime in December however, Wickstrom noted that he will be on vacation for nearly
the entire month. Clark said that I at the Public Works meeting with the 100th Ave
issue, we told the residents we were going to close S. 244th St. He noted that
Wicicstrom had said we still need full Council authorization for that to occur. Clark said
that a resident in the area called the Public Works Dept and someone from Public
Works told this person that" this will never be closed because it's already opened and
that's the way it will stay."
Gill commented to the Committee that was not true - he had spoken directly with John
Talbot and this was not said. Gill said that when John Talbot called and asked about
why the "no outlet" sign was removed, Gill said that we had been directed by the Council
Committee to locate engineering alternatives which included closing 244th, 100th and
other various alternatives and that we would meet with them, show them what the
impacts would be from the various alternatives so that they could have a good overall
view of what options are available to them so they could make a final decision on what
we would do. Gill said that John Talbot seemed to be amenable with that. Gill said that
we will notify them at least one week.in advance of when we will have another meeting
of all the property owners in the area and they would be able to discuss their views.
Another issue Clark noted was that during the last meeting (11/13) he had asked the
question of how long the build-out would be for Top of the Hill development. He said
the response from staff was 18 months. Wicl.strom said that this was a guess in fact,
that Clark had first suggested the 18 months. Clark denied this. Clark said that this
should have been stated as nothing more than estimates. Wickstrom said that we had
indicated that this was an estimate. He said we are dealing with a developer and the
transition of property and 18 months is a reasonable number. Mann concurred that he
felt it had been an estimate made by Wickstrom. Clark said that perhaps he was not
clear on the matter. He further said that we need to have some sense of the fact that
policy is being set here and it is being sent up to the Council and we have to be able to
defend it. He said that the communication system is inadequate, and we still need to
have that discussion. Clarl.'s recommendation was that a meeting be set probably in late
November. He asked for a special meeting following the next Public Works meeting,
however Mann did not concur.
Meeting adjourned: 5:00 P.M.
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