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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council Committees - Public Works/Planning - 10/23/1995 0 PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE OCTOBER 23, 1995 PRESENT: Paul Mann Tom Brubaker Tim Clark Gary Gill Don Wickstrom Ed White Neighborhood Representatives along I00th &-244th ABSENT: Jim Bennett Neighborhood Traffic Concerns - 100th Ave &-244th St Wicicstrom stated that this item has been brought back to Committee from the June 26th meeting. He stated that the issue is - the neighborhood became concerned when they noticed that construction activity had begun on S. 244th S- 100th Ave per the development of the Top of the Hill plat. The community believed that both roads would be opened and with that, there would be a significant traffic impact. Since the June 26th meeting, 244th is now opened; Top of the Hill has completed their improvements but have not finalized their plat. Wickstrom said that 100th Ave was going to be a gravel trail from 244th to East Hill Elementary School to allow a walking area for school children. He further stated that staff has conducted traffic studies since 244th has been opened; our traffic analysts took a one-week count and over that period of time, they counted a total of 1700 vehicles using 100th Ave, which equates to 243 vehicles per day. Of those 1700 vehicles, they observed 4 vehicles traveling over 35 mph. which is the lowest speed the police will site vehicles. Wicicstrom said this area is high density, single family residential with high density being 5,000 sq ft lots which is what it is ultimately zoned for. Top of the Hill went thru a rezone and that plat is 5,000 sq ft lots. 100th Ave was tied between 240th and 248th Streets and was designed as a residential collector arterial, tying 240th to 248th together, primarily servicing just the neighborhood in the area. When you speak of ultimate development, with that kind of zoning they will be needing other roads of access out of the area. Wickstrom further explained that with those traffic counts, we looked at our adopted Neighborhood Traffic Control Plan to see how that criteria would fit with respect to 1 what we could do under those aiterias to help resolve the problem. Under that Plan, they did not even meet some of the basic criteria. He stated that under our program, there needs to be at least 300 vehicles per day on the street, and this is not met in this instance. The 85 percentile speed must be greater than 35 mph and this also is not met. There are also threshold levels which we did not have. There are site distances and horizontal problems (i.e. physical barriers) to control traffic and closing off 244th would essentially be construed as a physical barrier. If 244th were to be closed in this neighborhood, than the criteria that has been established under the Neighborhood Traffic Control Plan should be met. Wicicstrom said that's what we looked at. We looked at additional signing and there was one point in the vicinity of 244th at 100th where additional speed signs could be installed. Basically, because of the need for these roads, due to the high density zoning, Public Worlcs does not support closing off 244th. We recommend installing additional speed limit signs;we also recommend that once Top of the Hill is developed with additional homes, take another traffic study to see if it meets the minimum criteria so some action could be taken such as "chocicers". This means narrowing the road down to a minimum of two lanes access. That would take curb, gutter and certain types of improvements. Wickstrom said that Public Worlcs also recommends that future developments on either 100th or 244th be conditioned to build these "chockers"where they meet the horizontal and vertical alignment - where there are no site distance problems and where no safety issues exists. Wickstrom stated that this is our recommendation on the issue. In response to Mann,Wickstrom said that the"action" on this item would be if you open, up 100th Ave, we get the comments in and either defer this to another Committee meeting after the neighborhood comments are heard and again review the whole thing. Wickstrom said that after the citizens give their input, if there is something new that comes up that we should be addressing which could change our recommendation, we would want the opportunity to review their input and possibly change the recommendation. At this time Mann opened the discussion up to the citizens in the audience. Vonda Finseth 10006 SE 244th Court asked if we had a copy of the original petition. She stated that the petition shows there are 55 children in the neighborhood. She did not agree with the recommendation of waiting until there is future development before 244th is closed. She asked when the traffic control minimum requirements were set and is there a possibility in having those re-addressed. She felt that 300 vehicles per day were high. Ed White responded noting that our normal criteria for residential streets is 1,000 vehicles per day. He went on to explain the procedures on taking the traffic counts. White stated that with the traffic counters laid out on the street, we do not have 2 the ability to determine whether the traffic is "neighborhood" traffic or "thru" traffic and we can only surmise that the majority is local neighborhood traffic. He said that 300 cars is a very, very small number. Dennis Ryerson of 10012 SE 244th Qt. stated that he has not yet heard one reason why 244th should go thru. He said that it was unanimous in two different petitions that no one wanted this. Wickstrom responded by saying when we look at streets we have to plan for the long term - we are talking about full build-out of the city; in order to meet the Growth Management Act and that's what we use in planning streets. For a high density single family lot we need to service the area. Before 244th was opened, you were in a long cul-de-sac which has problems in itself - it exceeds the length beyond our standard length (600 feet) for a cul-de-sac. In response to Ryerson, Wickstrom stated that the neighborhood would benefit by opening 244th from better access, as well as better emergency access. Ryerson stated that they are 100% satisfied with the present access. Wickstrom stated that there are several undeveloped properties adjacent to this street. You may be satisfied today but when they develop you may not be satisfied because the neighborhood will be cluttered with vehicles. Wicicstrom stated that we do have to plan for roads to service an area especially when high density zoning is added. Rob Dempsey 10021 SE 245th PI stated that reference is being made to the "overall plan" which could be the root of all this and, is there a way to get that plan changed? Wickstrom said that the overall plan is the Growth Management Plan which can be changed once a year and has just been adopted. It would address I00th Ave because 100th is in the Transportation Plan which is a part of the Growth Management Plan that Council has adopted. It is part of the road system that was developed to address our concurrency issues related in the Transportation Plan. 244th is the local access street simply being opened as part of the normal process of development of the area. The Committee hard additional comments from other neighborhood residents all in opposition of opening 100th Ave and 244th Street. Mann explained that as a Committee, they do listen to the citizen concerns and if they feel that those concerns are good for the city as a whole, then the Committee will take action. He noted that the next step is for the Council members to consider what has been said at this meeting and then if we feel that the right thing to do would be to shut down 244th or install a barrier so that emergency vehicles could still get thru, or put speed humps on 100th Ave., we will take action. Clark stated that at the Council meeting he heard the Mayor very specifically state, they 3 would not run 100th Ave directly thru. That would be restricted in terms of dealing with fire and emergency vehicle service. Clark also said that the Growth Management Act is binding and it basically says that we need to plan for the future; we have to deal with the growth and there has to be a certain level of service to accommodate those people. In other words, the new people coming in also have rights just as your property carries a certain amount of rights to it. The fact is there will be greater density and there is absolutely now we can do about that. Clark said that there is a tendency to tie 244th and 100th and treat them as if they are identical issues when in fact they are not. Clark said that right now 244th is connected. He asked Wickstrom what the status is of housing in the Top of the Hill development. Wickstrom said they haven't final-platted yet but that is coming up at the next Council meeting for final approval which essentially complies with the conditions established in 1994 and 1995 when they rezoned and platted. Clark said that within the framework of that final plat, are the roads already set? Wickstrom said that the roads they built were strictly the roads that were conditioned. They built the roads as part of the plat and that is how 244th St. was opened. Clark asked,what are the potential number of residences that will feed out onto 244th? Wickstrom said that Canterbury can feed out that way and Top of the Hill will feed out onto 244th. If you close it,they will go out to 104th versus taking an alternate route thru 100th and Canterbury. Gill stated that was one of the considerations - trying to provide ingress and egress and not forcing all trips out onto an arterial street and thru intersections that are already at level of service at peal-,hours. Clark stated there was an agreement among councilmembers and somehow that agreement has not reached staff. He said that the point was, will 100th Ave be opened? Wickstrom said that when a development comes in, we condition that development at that point in time. He stated that until we get a property developer coming to us, we do nothing. Clark noted that the original plan basically called for 100th Ave to actually be thru at one point, because there was to be an access road for emergency vehicles. Wickstrom said that was suppose to be a collector arterial. Gill said that is why Canterbury was developed the way it was. He said those lots were not allowed direct access onto 100th because 100th has always been planned as a collector arterial. Mann asked if we could place a barrier up that would be acceptable for emergency vehicles. John Bond noted that both Fire and Police Chiefs should concur on this. Clark stated that the one thing we can do right now is temporarily close 244th St. Eventually we need to deal with access in and out of Top of the Hill development and that is tied to the issue of 100th. Clark stated that we have no interest in turning 100th Ave into a straight "shot" arterial. However there are some other concerns tied to that and part of it is a piece of land not in the Top of the Hill development but immediately 4 adjacent to it. Clark said what we would like to do now is go back.to staff, ask them to try and make that approach, at the very least, to make sure that 100th is not a straight "shot". We can temporarily close 244th but we cannot leave those people at risk. Clark moved to temporarily close S. 244th Street, that motion being contingent upon approval of Police and Fire for their respective roles in the community; that we come back and revisit this issue of access on S. 244th Street 18 months from this time and that directions are given to staff that 100th Ave. be so designed that it cannot be a direct access arterial thru and that other access routes tying Top of the Hill be provided in whatever plan is involved in that particular process. Mann seconded the MOTION. Discussion: Brubaker noted that the developer of Top of the Hill was not in attendance and we don't know if 18 months is an appropriate time frame. Committee concurred with the motion. King County Interlocal Agreement for Solid Waste Management - Amendment Wickstrom stated that there was an interlocal group that overviewed the development of the Comp Plan and the County wants that group to become-one of their committees. Committee recommended authorizing the Mayor to sign the Amendment to the King County Interlocal Agreement for Solid Waste Management and also, to adopt the resolution appropriately numbered concurring with this action. Downtown Sidewalk- Street Trees Wickstrom said the trees on Harrison St. and 1st Avenue were not saveable and as a result we had to remove them and this added a significant amount of work. to the contract. The total cost is $57,000. We have some left over money in one of our project funds; we want to transfer that money out of there to pay for this additional work. In response to Clark, Wickstrom said that all trees are being grated. There was opposition the first time when we reconstructed the sidewalks; we left some large openings to give the trees some breathing and root growing room. Since then, we have had our landscape architect design a grate system that works along with a special type of soil which allows the root to grow into the ground without heaving the sidewalks up. He said the problem was that these tree roots were all surface roots and needed to be pruned so bad that the tree wouldn't survive or it would be subject to a wind blow over, 5 which left us no choice. There isn't enough room in the sidewalk to do it without grates and still provide an area to walk. Clark asked if the merchants were upset about the sudden appearance of these large grates. Wickstrom said the merchants were upset about the work, but recognized that it had to be done. In response to Clark, he said that the people on 1 st Avenue were informed in advance of any work.being done. Committee unanimously recommended Council authorization of transfer of funds of $57,000. Added Items: Charlie Kiefer - Interim Funding Agreement with City of Tacoma Kiefer said that in the agreement it states that Tacoma will build a water line and Kent and other water districts in South King County will help fund the building of that project and it also says ... "and to construct other facilities as would be necessary to reliably maintain the agreed level of water supply for delivery to the Utilities....." Kiefer asked if there is a list of these other facilities. Wickstrom said that those are Tacoma's projects. The Impoundment project is our own project. Those referred to in the agreement are Tacoma's such as Conservation and the Developing of Wells in the Tidelands. Those are projects that Tacoma has identified to firm up the Green River water supply. Wickstrom said that our project is not referenced in this agreement; that's for our future supply needs. We are getting 4.6 mgd per day out of Tacoma and that's not-all the water-we need for ultimate build-out. Tacoma's supply is firm. Between the Green River and what they have to do to male that year round 4.6 mgd they will provide the firming and will pay for the firming sources that they develop. Tom Brubaker: Meridian Annexation Garbage Service Brubaker said that when we annex into the Meridian area, they currently have the option under their existing franchise to choose not to have garbage service and to self- haul. He said in I(ent, a resident is required to pay the minimum garbage hauling service whether you self-haul or not. Brubaker said that when we annex into an area, state law requires us to renew the existing franchise holders contract for five years. He said that under the contract in effect for garbage hauling in the Meridian Annexation area, we should give the citizens the right to continue self-hauling without a minimum charge. Committee unanimously recommended that the City Code Section referencing Garbage Collection by a collection company be modified to take care of the problems of those people currently being serviced in the Meridian Annexation Area-and, they be allowed to continue their service for the maximum five year period. 6 r James Street - Paul Mann Mann asked why we are never considering widening James St and create another lane. Wicicstrom will again review the cost of doing this. 71 st Street Vacation - Don Wicicstrom Wicicstrom stated that we are coming back for approval of the final adoption of the ordinance on vacating a portion of 71 st Avenue near 180th and West Valley Highway. We will be receiving about $8,900 for a small amount of right of way being vacated. He asked that this money go into school sidewalk project funds rather than the street operating budget. Committee unanimously recommended that the money acquired from the street vacation on 71st Ave be transferred into school sidewalk project funds. Meeting adjourned: 6:1 S P.M. 7