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CITY CLERK
PUBLIC WORKS COMMITT 1:
OCTOBER 15, 1991
PRESENT: Jim White Carol Morris
Leona Orr Gary Gill
Steve Dowell Ed White
Don Wickstrom Bill Wolinski
Tom Brubaker
Mr. and Mrs. Rust, Bill Doolittle, Ron Mikulski, Xike Spence, Jim
Nelson, Steve Kartchner, Connie Epperly, Kenneth McClintock
Signature Point
Mr. McClintock, manager of Valley Apartments, spoke to the
Committee concerning the construction of the Signature Point
Apartments. He indicated that during the road construction
residents of his apartments have had to live with constant dust,
damage has been done to the parking lot and building of Valley
Apartments. Mr. McClintock indicated that the owner of the
building and the tenants feel someone should be responsible for the
damage done. Wickstrom indicated the developer of the Signature
Point apartments is rebuilding Holly Road. The City"s inspectors
have previously red-tagged the project. Mr. McClintock indicates
that the contractor waters the road when the inspector is around
but stops when he leaves. It was determined that claims should be
filed with the City Clerk for damages. Tom Brubaker indicated the
claims would be referred to our insurance cagier who will
determine liability. Wickstrom indicated we would not accept the
project until the claims are resolved.
Reith Road
Steve Kartchner asked about constructing a right hand turn lane at
the bottom of Reith Road. Ed White indicated that the backup only
occurs one hour a day and only about 10-15% of the traffic are
turning right and in order to properly accommodate the right hand
turn movements, the right hand turn lane would have to be
constructed up to the top of the hill. Mr. Kartchner suggested
using the side of the road that is already paved. Ed White
referred to the safety factors involved in using the shoulder. Jim
White stated he felt a short term solution would be to widen the
road at the bottom to allow the right hand turns. Mr. Kartchner
suggested just posting the road to allow the right hand turns. Ed
White commented he was concerned about the safety issues involved
in doing that and did not feel it warranted. Jim White asked that
Ed White come up with a long term solution to the problem, develop
costs, etc. and bring it back before the Committee.
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Steve Dowell commented about the types of issues that are being
brought before the various Council committees. He expressed
concern that more and more administrative details are coming before
the committees and that the committee charges are to set policy and
make decisions based on staff recommendations.
Valley College
Ron Mikulski, president of Valley College, stated that Valley
College was licensed by the State this year as a four year college.
He added they have several facilities throughout downtown Kent. *He
requested that the City place approximately four directional signs
in agreed upon locations directing traffic to Valley College. He
stated he has seen similar types of signs in other communities.
Dowell expressed concerns about the City providing the signs for a
private school. Jim White commented that he thought Northwest
College in Kirkland purchased their own signs because they are a
private facility. Gary Gill added that King County will allow non-
profit organizations to pay for signs and the County will mount
them. Carol Morris indicated these types of signs fall under the
street occupation ordinance. Ed White clarified that was for a
permit to place the signs. That permit does not indicate the City
would purchase or construct the signs. The signs would have to be
provided by the applicant. It was determined that Mr. Mikulski
should work with Ed White on this issue.
Street Occupation Ordinance
Jim Nelsen indicated he was addressing the Committee from two
perspectives, that of an active realtor in the area and president
of Seattle-King County Association of Realtors Southeast Council.
He commented that Ordinance 2998 would cause major chaos in the
real estate industry and would cause inconvenience for owners who
are trying to market their property. He requested that real estate
related signs be exempt from the ordinance. Wickstrom clarified
that prior to the ordinance no signs were allowed in the public
right of way including real estate signs. This ordinance does
allow those signs in the right of way but requires a permit to do
so. Ed White added that staff is in the process of developing fee
recommendations and it is proposed that for real estate signs an
initial fee of $75 be charged plus $5 for each sign rather than a
$75 permit fee for each sign. Carol Morris suggested that she
meet with Mr. Nelsen to fully explain the ordinance and to get his
input on the resolution setting the fees. Dike Spence,
governmental affairs director and legal counsel for Seattle-King
County Association of Realtors, made comments concerning the
process identified in the ordinance. Carol Morris clarified that
the process in the ordinance covers a wide range of needs and that
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real estate signs would not necessarily have to go through each
step. Spence said he would like to have it clarified in the
ordinance. He then continued about the importance of signs to the
real estate industry. He stated that in Bellevue the industry
polices itself. There are three signs allowed in public right of
way for each open house, only during the time of the open house,
not on utility poles and must be removed at night. When these
rules are violated, the City notifies the realty office and the
realtors association. In the industry, they agree that if one
agent sees a sign improperly placed that agent will pick up the
sign and return it to the realtor. They prefer it that way so they
do not lose any of their signs. Carol Morris reiterated that she
would be happy to work with them to address their concerns in the
resolution. Steve Dowell indicated he feels this ordinance is
going to be a continual source of difficulty. Toady Brubaker added
that prior to this ordinance being developed he had been working
with a member of the maintenance staff on the disposition of the
200+ real estate signs that had been confiscated. Mr. Spence and
Mr. Nelsen will work with Ed White and Carol Morris to address the
concerns of the real estate industry with this ordinance.
94th Avenue Storm Drainage System Improvements
Wickstrom stated that the analysis of the storm drainage system on
James Street determined it had capacity to intercept the drainage
from the Hilltop area. Construction of the drainage improvements
needed on 94th would cost approximately $90,000. This would
intercept the drainage at the culvert on 94th, take it to the James
Street system to an outlet into Mill Creek. Wickstrom clarified
this will take the drainage to Mill Creek sooner than it now
reaches it. Dowell asked if that would put more water on Central.
Leona Orr asked if it would impact those homes along Mill Creek
that have drainage problems now. Wickstrom indicated it would be
hard to determine if this diversion would make an impact on that
area. Dowell asked if we had a plan to solve all the drainage
problems. Wickstrom indicated we have already invested $1 million
in the Upper Mill Creek. The six year financial plan for the
drainage utility which will be brought before Council soon includes
a $26 million improvement program. The first year's emphasis is
the lagoon conversion. The second year's emphasis will include an
analysis of the erosion problems and how to achieve higher storage.
Wickstrom reiterated that the storms you are asking us to address
exceed the design standards we have in place. Leona Orr asked if
something could be done in the interim to increase the capacity of
Mill Creek. Wickstrom stated that finding storage is another
problem. He has proposed funding the analysis needed on the Mill
Creek system for 1992 . The drainage channel north of James Street
is the responsibility of Drainage District #1. That channel is
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probably reduced by siltation. Plus, we have been dealing with 75
to 100 year storm events which is beyond our design standards.
Leona Orr stated she had spoken with Morgan Llwellyn about this as
he is a commissioner of Drainage District fl. He indicated that
the District may disband. She questioned who would have control
over the channel if that happened. After considerable further
discussion, the Committee unanimously recommended proceeding with
the 94th Avenue storm system improvements.
Parking Ordinance
Carol Morris explained that she drafted the ordinance in this form
to consolidate all the ordinances on No Parking into one. She
suggested she redraft this ordinance to eliminate the street names
in the ordinance that is codified only stating that there is no
parking in those areas so posted and to list the streets in a
separate ordinance. She continued that no new streets have been
added to the No Parking designations. The definition of the 15-
minute parking zones has been changed to the definition for loading
zones so that those areas do not state a period of time but just
for the loading and unloading of property or passengers. The tow-
away section is what was previously discussed so that now when a
tow-away area is posted, the cars can be towed. The penalty
section has been changed eliminating a reduced penalty for those
not requesting a mitigated or contested hearing. The Committee
unanimously recommended that the ordinance be redrafted to exclude
the street names from the ordinance to be codified and that a
separate ordinance be developed specifically identifying the
streets on which there is a no parking designation.