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KENT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
October 23, 1989
The meeting of the Kent Planning Commission was called to order by
Chair Martinez at 7:30 p.m. Monday, October 23, 1989 in the Kent
City Hall, City Council Chambers.
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT:
Linda Martinez, Chair
Tracy Faust
Elmira Forner
Greg Greenstreet
Leona Orr
Carol Stoner
Gabriella Uhlar-Heffner
Raymond Ward
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT:
Anne Biteman, excused
PLANNING STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT:
James P. Harris, Planning Director
Fred Satterstrom, Planning Manager
Stephen Clifton, Planner
Janet Shull, Planner
Chris Holden, Secretary
Commissioner Orr stated the minutes of September 25, 1989 should
be corrected to show that her absence was excused. Commissioner
Faust MOVED and Commissioner Forner SECONDED a motion to approve
the September 25, 1989 minutes as corrected. Motion carried.
(Verbatim Minutes)
KENT VALLEY FLOOR HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION #CPZ-89-4
Chair Martinez reopened the public hearing.
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Commissioner Orr: Madame Chair?
Chair Martinez: Yes.
Commissioner Orr: Just one note. In the. . .I assume we are still
operating with the appearance of fairness
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Chair Martinez: That's correct.
Commissioner Or And I want to enter into the record that I have
held conversations with two persons; one of which is Jim Flick and
the other is Pamela Newcomer and not in any way about what we
planned to do or what our deliberations might be but just as a
procedural information for them as to how to proceed through the
process of appearing before the Commission and whatnot so I just
wanted that to be on the record.
Chair Martinez: Thank you. O.k. We have. . .can you all hear me,
we're having some difficulty with the microphone. The first person
that has signed up to speak tonight is Donald McDaniel. Yes, would
you like to step. . .please always step to the microphones, state
your name and address for the record.
Don McDaniel: Yes, I 'm Don McDaniel and I own the properties at
609 and 616 S. Bridges. I didn't know exactly what you're going
to do tonight. I was at the last meeting and spoke. My primary
concern was that our neighborhood letter of October 2 was entered
into your packet. It was the signatures of about 80 percent of
the property owners of the two blocks involved in. . .
Chair Martinez: Excuse me, could you please tell us exactly which
we are talking. . .
Don McDaniel: In option review area. . . .option review area #1.
Chair Martinez: One, thank you.
Don McDaniel: And we have about three pages of signatures attached
to a letter indicating our thoughts on your proposal for that area.
Chair Martinez: Yes.
Don McDaniel: So, if you have those. . .
Chair Martinez: Yes sir, we do.
Don McDaniel: Then you know. . .like I said about 80 percent of the
property owners are opposed to your recommendation for that area.
Thank you.
Chair Martinez: Thank you. O.k. , Dennis Holt.
Dennis Holt: Thank you. My name is Denny Holt. My business
address here in Kent is 505 S. Washington Avenue and I 'm here
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tonight representing Mr. Robert and Patricia Lorentson who have
Parcel ID #91977100081.
Chair Martinez: In which area, please.
Dennis Holt: And it's in the Planning area MF-2, And the
Lorentson's had asked me for some observation and monitoring assist
relative to the efforts that you folks as Planning ,Commissioners
have before you in the down zoning study with some of my prior
background and credentials and previous involvements with the City
of Auburn and their Planning Department as we go through the same
kind of land use and zoning issues that. . .it led them. I'm sorry
it led them to ask me to review what staff has done,;.j.arid I commend
the staff and I've made that comment in earlier communications
about how you have addressed what is not a simple task given the
mandate of Council of 20 percent reduction. And in;the review of
the MF area 2 that specifically contains Lorentson'e parcel which
is on the southwest corner of the intersection of. S,,4 Fifth Avenue
and Crow and being within a study area that by pro
vious comment
from others who are in the area and who's opinions,j respect and
I 'm relative to, I think some of their shock in the': initial study
deliberations and may be presuming they were ini a,�single-family
area and finding that they weren't and the area being„proposed for
the MRD downzoning to duplex which Lorentson's are got personally
in favor of at first blush and in my review we arevf the opinion
that there's some long-term benefit to the City in general and
general populous in retaining the Lorentson's parcel; as identified
with the MRM classification. The parcel as I think you observed
it earlier in your field trips and I commend that effort on your
parts to go out and take a look at these. . .what you called site
specific areas and our pleading is that even beyond, that you may
be going to some analysis of subareas and I think ,from ,observation
in your deliberations of last week that that's one �of the things
that making your decision task tough because things were. . .the
rezone classifications that you have felt to be f4irly straight
forward you have made some decisions on and those "li ch are more
difficult, you're studying further and I commend t4at and would
simply make the pleading that given the existence of, ,new and what
I referred to earlier as what seem to be tastefulIy Carle apartment
complexes in the area of near proximity and , JUst south of
Lorentson's parcel. And given the railroad circuvst4nce in the
westerly boundary of that particular MF-2 zoning area,,, Fifth Avenue
and the land use that seems to be showing itself in the full
development of that particular area from Fifth all the ,way back up
to the tracks in apartment complexes. Proximity to the downtown
area, proximity to the future mass transit and potential rail
corridors, our hope and desire is that that this ,area would be
retained MRM. We respect the interest of others in the area where
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the MRD and the duplex downzoning is certainly in the proposal as
an option and may be falling in. . .with favor on some people who
live in some of the older single-family areas or single-family
residences that are there. We -don't choose to judge on how you
might elect to approach that balance of the area to the east but
we would like to be of record in encouraging that the zone between
Fifth and the railroad, Lorentaon's parcel in particular, remain
MRM.
Chair Martinez: Are there any questions?
Commissioner Forney: Was there any mention on how the traffic
might be handled in that area if it was left MRM?
Dennis Host: The. .there's. . .there's a deadend on a part of Fifth
just off of Willis but I have. . *1 have not specifically addressed
that other than. . .than to have a` vision that off Willis which was
recently improved there's a. . .there's a pretty elaborate and
tasteful median area there in the long-term planning I 've. . .I've
rather conjectured that may turn out to be a Metro collector stop
or things of that nature. The' overall character of the street
improvements in that particular -acme I think will lead to probably
developer improvements or LID improvements as the area is. . .is
upgraded and evolves through highest and best land uses in time
but, no. . .I have not specifically addressed any particular traffic
except to say that it's quite well defined in there. The right of
ways, I'm not sure, Mr. Harris, if those are. . .I think they're City
standards and sixty-foot rights of way as I recall. But there's
a portion of Crow Street whicha, is immediately adjacent to the
Lorentson parcel which is apparently been vacated for the park
purpose but the roadway seems to be of traditional rights of way
existing and their ultimate improvements I'm not. . .I 'm not sure
about timing of the street construction plans for these.
Chair Martine: Other questions? Thank you. Connie Epperly?
Connie Epperly: Councilmembers:' My name is Connie Epperly. I'm
a homeowner at 639 S. Fifth AvenUe; the area known as MF2. I'm in
support of the proposed downzoning -from multi-dwelling to duplex.
After the September meeting which I attended, I decided to talk to
my neighbors and get their reaction to the proposal. I wasn't
surprised. The support was overwhelming. I collected signatures
which I turned over to the Planning Committee and you have in your
packets. All in favor of proposed downzoning. I promised them I
would be here tonight to speak not only for myself but for them
also. We want to preserve the fidighborhood that we've all worked
so hard to create. This area is made up of mostly older homes,
homes that are a part of Kent's history. Some already registered
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with the Historical Society and others are of great interest to the
Society. Kent needs to preserve some of it's history, When you
take 50, 80, 100-year-old homes and surround them with modern two-
story townhouses, you take history and make it look out of place.
Just on Fifth Avenue alone we now have 90 units in a cane-block area
with a proposal to 76 more future units. The units w4 already have
all have either vacancy or for rent signs n them. , We've taken
quiet, tree-lined streets and made race-tracks out of them.
Streets where a senior citizen thinks twice about taking a walk.
Where parents think twice about letting their children ride
bicycles. Where are these children going to play that come and
live in these apartments. In the street? In the par).ing lots? We
have a mini-park down at the end of the street, but it's Crow
Street and if the development keeps going like it is, that will be
Crow Street and we won't have a park. Our schools are overburdened
with children and the traffic on our streets are ridiculous. The
developers and the real estate consultants don't livo, in our area.
They come in, create the problems, pocket their money and leave and
we don't want what they leave behind. They say that ,a duplex zone
is a failure. Well a lot of our older homes are duplexes and with
them the neighborhood is preserved. As far as our 4gsperate need
for housing. There are vacancies in most of our complexes and you
can't open a newspaper without seeing the enticing, ads begging
people to move into their apartments with low rents, groceries,
free cable. We believe that apartments should be b#lt at a need,
not greed. We've found in our area that our City government does
not have the manpower to enforce our City codes and ordinances.
So, in turn, they aren't being followed, they are being overlooked
and the developers are slipping right by. If this, is so-called
progress, then we, as a neighborhood, vote to stay behind the
times. Again, I stress that myself and the 4Q neighbors with
signatures that I have given you, support your propos,4l ,to downzone
this area MF2 and we thank you for your concern and' support in
preserving our neighborhood. Thank you.
Any questions?
Chair Martinez: Yeah, I do. I know that a lot of ,the housing
stock in that area right now is single-family. , ,Do you have
anything to share with this group regarding the addition of mother-
in-law cottages on some of those single-family properties.
Connie Epperly: Fine. We have no problem with ,single-family
duplex type housing. But, these apartments that they are putting
in are just massive and the kids are massive and the traffic is
massive.
Chair Martinez: Thank you. Other questions? Than] you.
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Connie Epperly: Thank you.
Chair Martinez: Tom Condit?
Tom Condit: My name is Tom Condit. I live at 610 Railroad Avenue.
In the area called 0-1 and basically I just. . .we sent around for
a petition I guess you have all the signatures and things in there.
I don't know what else more I cyan say except for the fact that I
have been planning for a lone time to turn my property into
commercial and to use in a commercial aspect and this has taken a
lot of my planning and years of. . .just changing everything around.
I 'm just saying I 'd. just like to see stay commercial.
Commissioner Forner: I'm sorry I didn't get the area you were
talking about.
Tom Condit: Area 0-1.
Commissioner Forner: 0-1, oh, d.k.
Chair Martinez: And your name is-on the petition, is that correct.
Tom Condit: Yes, it is.
Chair Martinez: Are there other questions? Thank you. Pamela
Newcomer.
Pamela Newcomer: Pamela Newcom r. I own property at 839 Third
Avenue N. Excuse me. It's multifamily 6 and there's also a piece
of property up to the north called Option 2. And I was at the last
meeting, I expressed some concerns and you gave us the time to turn
in written testimony and I took 'it up with my neighbors and I also
filed an informal petition with,, about 75 signatures. I was only
able in the time limit, I'm a -Vorking mother, to get about 55
percent of the neighborhood. Excuse me. The general consensus
from the people that were interviewed was that #1, nobody realized
that they were zoned duplex. These are people that have lived
there 20-30-40-50-60 years. The other consensus was there was
probably five people in 75 that wanted it zoned duplex. A good
estimate and I didn't really gdt into figures on this. I'd say
probably 40 to 45 percent of that neighborhood is elderly people
that have been there on an average of 20 years. There's one small
section of the neighborhood that that has some, I guess you would
call it low-income rentals. There's a lot of unhappy people on
Second Avenue but, for the most part, we have stable people that
would like it, I guess you call it downzone to single-family; to
take that into consideration in 'your planning. They are already
very concerned about the traffic as it is now. I also know there's
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16 duplexes sited for the northend of the road and people are real
concerned about what. . .what traffic problems that's g�inq to bring.
I might add. . .several of the people that signed thd;; pgtition are
duplex owners. They do not want to see anymore in there. And the
other thing, I probably got a little short in A polrsonal letter
that I wrote to the Council, x was in a hurry and, 'was, probably
pretty angry when I wrote it. I read the entire „st4dy' pamphlet.
And I noticed over and over again it talked about,'gUe4' #Y of life.
And, I don't see that happening to the valley. 'I, sbe; . .the only
instance I see to the valley people that it's low-i;n4ome. We need
affordable housing and we can' look into Renton, ire ,°far look upon
the hill in Renton which is a City of duplexes end{',poople don't
want to live there. It's very transit and what I'm ct#ing is all
the zoning for the downtown area is for apartments 'an4 lduplexes and
I just. . .I don't feel that it's going to bring a very real quality
of life for the people that are there. I think it,needs to be a
good mixture. There's a lot of apartments now, there's a lot of
duplexes. Quite a few duplexes in my neighborhood, And, it's fine
for what it is. But, if every land that become avail�ble is put
to duplex it won't be good family place anymore. Some of the
people that are, including myself---I've been thero; three years,
I opted to live there. I lived five years on east niil. ` Everybody
in the world does not want to live on east hill.,: I lived in
between Smith and James, halfway up the hill and 'I',got tired of
waiting and extra hour to get up the hill to get home. I chose to
live in the valley in that particular area because it was kind of
like being rural. Just. . .I spent a lot of my time growing up as
a kid up in Lester up in the mountains and that's wtha 'that reminds
me of living right next to the tracks. There's ' tunger people
moving into rental homes, into homes they've bou0t, a.nd they are
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moving there because of the quality that's there ncl, no one is
aware that it's zoned duplex and, like I said, the` vajority would
like it zoned. . .downzoned to single-family.
Chair Martinez: Can I ask a question? Did yoU, yhgn you were
talking to your neighbors, did you talk about the si*e �of the lot.
How. . .how large you would life to have it. We have been talking
about R1-5, 000; R1-7.2, etc. Did you talk to your ;n ghbors at all
about that?
Pamela Newcomer: I 'll put it this way. I did to the ones that
could understand.
Chair Martine,: O.k.
Pamela Newcomer: A lot of elderly, they just don't understand.
Chair Martinez: And what was the reaction to that?
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Pamela Newcomer: They didn't Care. You know there's one in
particular that on's a postage stamp. It's the little, 'tiniest
property that I've ever seen but it has one of these prefabed
homes. It's real cute. They keep it up immaculately. And, that
was another thing, all the homes in my neighborhood are
immaculately kept up except mine, You know. . . .the smallest of the
lot, I guess I would say wouldnrt matter. And I don't. . .some of
the people didn't understand the zoning anyhow because. . .I'll take
for instance. . .I learned a -lot by talking to these people.
Straight across the street from me there's a lot that's more than
50 foot wide maybe 70; next door to that there's a duplex, two very
nice people. It's 50 foot wide. Now, the house. . .the people that
used to own the 70-foot wide property wanted to put a duplex there
but they were told they couldn't even though it was zoned duplex.
Where, next door, it went in on a postage stamp. You know, I don't
understand the zoning laws.
Chair Martineg: O.k. Questions?
commissioner Faust: I 'll ask you the same thing that I asked the
lady who represented the neighborhood down south of Willis. How
do you feel about putting mother-in-law cottages on those
properties? Say as opposed to duplex or as an alternative or
whatever.
Pamela Newcomer: There are some presently. I think it would
probably cause just about as much traffic and that and maybe a
mother-in-law apartment can only have one person in it, maybe two.
But if you start crowding three and four people into it, cause they
want to get low rent cause it's aping to be a real small apartment.
There's one of those in particular, the neighbor was ranting and
raving about a whole family being put in a little, tiny bachelor
apartment. We don't. . . .just don't want that kind of stuff. You
know, I don't think the shop owners want to get (unclear) of the
downtown area either. You know, we talked about the. . .planning
book of making nice shopping so Oeople would be attracted to it.
And, if there's nothing but low-income on our valley, where are
they going to go? They are going to go up to that nice pretty
white one up on the top of east hill.
Chair Martinez: Are there other questions?
Commissioner Ward: What size is the lot that you personally live
on?
Pamela Newcomer: That I live on? 50 by 30.
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Chair Martinez: Other questions?
Commissioner Forner: Do you feel that the apartmexatL . .that the
duplexes that are there now are—are detrimental to the quality
of life?
Pamela Newcomer: There are. . .there's one that is. Vhey took out
the front yard and made it a parking lot. The children were just
taken away because the father tried to poison the kid ;and the other
one went. . .the two kids went to foster care. Ther%'s ,two people
that live across the street from me that are wonderful people.
They've both lived in their duplex for ten years. , 1wile are solid
people. You know, you can't say whose going to movw in but—the
other thing that I would want to say is that the typo of duplexes
that are going to be attracted here because it'A, in the Polk
directly. . .it's called zero income level. We'ra going to get
cracker box duplexes that go up to five feet of the 'property. We
aren't going to get quality townhouse type duplexes.
Chair Martinez: Are there other questions. Thank you very much.
Pamela Newcomer: Thank you very much for listening.;
Chair Martinez: Steve Diauli,o, did you want to spea;l;, 0.k. Thank
you. Is there anyone else in ,the audience who did n t up who
wishes to speak? I would. . .oh, yes. Yes, sir., "Wim -;lgn
you speak
to the microphone and identify yourself please?
Hugh Leiber: Good evening. My name is Hugh Leibe*, I have an
office of 1819 S. Central. I ,live in the City of ,K t.� I live on
James Street. I want to speak just very briefly, :.if I can. How
many of you have read the ' Pierce Report. jtF psi a lot of
interesting things in it. Orie of the main things, ,tb,ataone really
has to face with, we have the growth here. You t'vq;; gGt find the
ways and means of cooperating with that growth becf.0 we truly
have true growth here. It is not a loose growt . ,, ris,, a true
growth and this City has the opportunity to become a„gr,eat city it
you will allow it. And we no longer can stand; bye {srhd see just
drabness go by and by. One of the interesting thingithat I think
we also must be aware of and that is that we cannot d6ptinue to be
driven by fear. The fear of being overbuilt because,,wq don't know
what we are doing. And we need to, at this point, ,ba in to do some
real, real planning and not, as a matter of fact ' n the Pierce
Report the essence of that was stop your silly dowhzoning and
really get on with the true business of planning , b'ecause your
growth is here you can not ignore it and let's all, get, together and
make this a nice great City because it has the gppq tunity to be
so. Thank you.
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Chair Martinez: Questions. O.k. Thank you. Yes, you wish to
speak?
Don Bazemore: As a suggestion as how to support.
Chair Martinez: Would you please identify yourself.
Don Bazemore: I 'm sorry. My name is Don Bazemore. I 'm at 401
Second Avenue S. in Seattle. B-A-Z-E-M-O-R-E. Oh, I'm sorry. I
wanted to support Ms. Newcomer and volunteer because I represent
the property immediately north of here. The triangle which you
had originally scheduled for MRG which is 16 units. We
respectfully request that you give us a higher density than that.
I think your three categories of 40 units, 23 units and 16 units,
either one of the two higher than 16 would help us considerably.
Chair Martinez: Now, are you talking. . .you are still now in MF2,
are you?
Don Bazemore: I 'm on parcel #2 in the valley study which is the
triangle part with the railroad ,on the east, freeway on the north
and Ms. Newcomer's neighborhood which is duplex is immediately
south of us. Our program suggests that we, in fact, shows that we
would enter off of Fourth. We discussed this with Ms. Newcomer at
the last meeting and assured her that we had no intention of using
any of the streets in that singl4-family neighborhood to access our
property. But, to go over onto the arterial at Fourth because our
triangle allows us to do that. The numbers are 138, if you leave
us at MR-16 units; or 199 if you take us to 23 units or something
seriously in excess of that if you go to the higher one. We can
take the unit lost in the duplex'and move them north very happily.
If they go to single-family and we go to 23, we would be delighted,
they would be delighted and that, would give us about 60 more units
on the property which would certainly more than compensate for the
berming and the screening on our youth border. We would physically
separate ourselves from the sin4 ,t-family neighborhood completely.
We also need to spend a lot of money to separate ourselves from the
railroad track and the freeway. So, if you could entertain that
motion to give us up to 23 or to even higher, we would seriously
appreciate it and it would help us to do an even better job in
being a neighbor to the single-family neighborhood. Thank you.
Chair Martinez: Thank you. Ard there any questions?
Jim Harris: Just one comment for the Commission. Did you all find
that option area 2 . O.k.
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Chair Martinez: Yes, thank you.
Fred Satterstrom: Also, Linda there are a number! of people
standing, so I thought I 'd do is open this divider here so they
can set in the first row.
Chair Martinez: O.k. That sounds like a courteoup idea. O.k.
While they are doing that I would entertain a motion to close the
public hearing and then I would like to take a br4'4X po we can read
all of the material that we have received tonight b�ca;use we have
not seen it either.
Commissioner Stoner: I'd move to close the public bearing.
Chair Martinez: If there's a second.
Commissioner Ward: Second.
Chair Martinez: All in favor.
Voices: Aye.
Chair Martinez: Opposed:
Silence.
Chair Martinez: I'm sorry. We've closed the pubXi hearing.
Several people talked at this point--nothing clear Qn tape.
Chair Martinez: I would entertain a motion to reopep the hearing.
I believe there are a couple 'of people that did noti" speak.
Commissioner Stoner: So move.
Chair Martinez: Is there second.
Commissioner Ward: Second. '
Chair Martinez: All in favor?
Voices: Aye
Chair Martinez: Would the people who stuck i ieir hand up
please. . .one of you step to the microphone, pies nd identify
yourself. :r
Vern Gibson: My name is Vernon Gibson. I reside in MRM area.
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Chair Martinez: Which one specifically.
Vern Gibson: Right downtown Kent.
Chair Martinez: Is that MF. . .do you know which one it is?
Vern Gibson: It's 701 Fifth Avenue S. Just just spoke of a few
minutes ago. . .MF2 property.
Chair Martinez: MF2?
Vern Gibson: 2 property, yes.
Chair Martinez: Fine. Thank you.
Commissioner Greenstreet: Two or six.
Chair Martinez: Could be two.
Jim Harris: Two.
Vern Gibson: Would be in two, yes. Anyway, I do live in the area.
I do own the apartment complex which (unclear) talked about,
Applewood Lane. We took great pride in putting that complex in the
area down there and the reason slip put it in down there because we
knew that the area could stand this type of a growth. The complex
are very elite for executive type of individuals if you will. It's
not downgraded by any way. We have complexes that are three and
two bedroom. The children in the area, at the moment, play down
the street which we just vacated. We have it for families. We
designed it for families and I feel that we have to have something
like this in the downtown area in order to handle the growth which
is coming forth here in the Kent area. I usually do not get up and
speak like this but because of the large zoning that is going on,
the downtown area needs something, I believe, to do this. We are
proposing to build some other complex units in the same area which
is in front of the Planning Commission at the moment. And, we do
regret there are some ill feelings that is going on because of the
proposal that is being planned in that area. I also own six units
in the area, across the street from the present location where we
live now. It's the Downtowner Phase II. And, I've had families
in there for over six years. And, I live there in that area and
I'm proud of living in that area. I'm an executive myself and I
don't think the area has been downgraded at all. I think it has
been upgraded and we hope to continue to do so. Thank you for your
time.
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Chair Martinez: Are there any questions?
Commissioner Ward: Yes. You want, what are propoa�ng. Are you
proposing that the multi be increased.
Vern Gibson: Leave it like it is.
Commissioner Ward: Leave it like it is. MRM?
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Vern Gibson: MRM, yes.
Chair Martinez: Other questions? O.k. Thank you. ;,,,
Vern Gibson: Thank you.
Chair Martinez: I saw another. Yes, yes, ma'am?
Connie Epperly: I spoke earlier. I just had. . .
Chair Martinez: Please identify yourself for the record.
Connie Epperly: O.k. My name is Connie Epperly.'- ''�'r 'live at 639
S. Fifth Avenue. I would like to make a comment-on. ,Pab Lorentson
who has property down there, who has a representatjv, 4q here speaking
for him tonight. Four year8 ago, Bob Lorentson ' &"4ifourplex, a
duplex and a house down there. After a long time f dealing with
him, he fixed up his house. After much more ti*e,l we had to
condemn the fourplex that were rat infested. There was an old
couple still living there and the floors were Ca*ing in. The
lights didn't work. There was no water and he left them that way.
We, as a neighborhood, had to get together and worXiiv .th the City
to get rid of them because he Is up in Snohomish Coun*y, and he could
care less. This is the man that wants to build more' a artments in
the area or wants to keep it a multi-dwelling area. ,,Anpther thing,
I heard a lot of developers recently comment on thla 't#"Stable ground
that we have in the valley. Since the recent aartbquake in San
Francisco, this is farmland, it's good rich dirt ! f#rmland and we
are at sea level and all of this building---I'mnbt;' re what the
codes and restrictions are and stuff, but according:gto, what I have
heard from developers it's an unstable ground to,� be; b'tilding such
a high density of modern apartments on. That's a11; I, had to say.
Chair Martinez: Are there any questions?
Commissioner Ward: Yeah, do, you live on a piece,,of ground.
Connie Epperly: Um hum.
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Commissioner Ward: Is it single-family?
Connie Epperly: Yes.
Commissioner Ward: It's not farmland.
Connie Epperly: Well, at one point is was a farm. It's a 100 year
old home, it was one of the original homes down there. Right now,
we are on a 7,000 foot lot.
Chair Martinez: Any other questions? Thank you, very much. Last
call, are there any other people in the audience that would like
to enter anything into the record? Yes, ma'am.
Gail Williams: I debated whether to or not. My name is Gail
Williams and it's about MF11.
Chair Martinez: And your address, please.
Gail Williams: 21817 93rd Avenue S. And, I just wanted to make
sure. . .I sent some correspondence and I wanted to make sure that
you had an opportunity to review that and that you realized that
when the spokesman for the owners that he misrepresented that as
being one of five parts where actually four parts are single-
family houses already on it. I' Just wanted to make sure that you
understood that.
Chair Martinez: O.k.
Commissioner Ward: You're talking about the MF2?
Gail Williams: MF11.
Chair Martinez: Yes, question?
Commissioner F rner: You mean there's houses on the four lots that
are identified in there.
Gail Williams: Um hum.
Commissioner Forney: O.k.
Gail Williams: They're custom hales, single-family residences and
I understand you came out and viewed the property and that you saw
those four houses. But in the way it was written, it was written
up that he wanted to withdraw. . .or he spoke, he wanted to withdraw
one portion of five parts and he only has one part in the first
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part. He doesn't have anything. . .ownership in the thp;w other four
parts. Does that make since.
Chair Martinez: Yes.
Gail Williams: I just thought maybe I wanted to clarify that.
Chair Martinez: Thank you. Any other questions: Thank you.
Gail Williams: Thank you.
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Gwen Thompson: Gwen Thompson. I live at. 535 S. BridT
sand I also
own property at 539 S. Bridges. I just wanted to e, . .petition
that was turned in.
Chair Martinez: Which piece.
Gwen Thompson: On the area 1.
Chair Martinez: Option? y „
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Gwen Thompson: It is commercial now and therels � a �petition there
from 80 percent of the homeowners saying that they v%th,to keep it
commercial.
Chair Martinez: Yes, yes.
Gwen Thompson: I would just like to say that I didntt -get my name
on the petition and I would like you to be aware that I would like
it to be on there.
Chair Martinez: O.k. Anyone else? I would entertain a motion to
really close this hearing.
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Commissioner Forner: So moved.
Chair Martinez: Is it?
Commissioner Stoner: Second. '
Chair Martinez: All in favor?
Voices: Aye.
Chair Martinez: Opposed?
Silence.
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Chair, Martine&: We will close the hearing and will take a break
for. . .what, fifteen minutes. For at least 15 minutes while the
Commission has an opportunity to read what has been submitted in
the last week and then we will come back for our formal
deliberations to decide what we really want to do. O.k. Pardon?
Voice: Unclear
Chair Martinez: It may very well be. And, and we will probably
go to about 10:00 and if no decision has been reached by 10: 00
normally we might—we adjourn to another time and date. O.k. So.
I would like to call the meeting back to order, please. Has
everyone now had time to look through the packet of our materials
and at least take a short. . .short gander at them all. Yes, it's
your own fault, whatever you've missed, it's your own fault.
Last week we, in regards to the East Hill, we developed an
interesting approach and that was, I thought it was interesting,
and that was someone proposed a. . .that we look at one of the
options and then go through and develop in workshop a consensus
about the one's that we agreed, with, go back into the formal
process, approve those and them. move to the one's that we could
not reach consensus and I would entertain a motion to begin that
same kind of a process this evening. Yes.
Commissioner Faust: Madam Chair, I move that we use the site
specific reduction for the Valley Floor as the basis of the process
that you've just described.
Chair Martinez: Would you please add about the work going into
the workshop?
Commissioner Faust: And that we go into workshop session to do
SO.
Chair Martinez: Is there a second for that.
Commissioner Forner: Second.
Chair Martinez: Is there discussion. All in favor?
Voices: Aye
Chair Martinez: O.k. Now, I would ask the staff to lead us one
by one through each one of the sites. Yes, yes ma'am.
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Commissioner Stoner Do you .have figures on the,wh,#�t the effects
of the land changes we made on East Hill mean. T are we with
that?
Fred Satterstrom: Fred Satterstrom from the Plann,iar V, apartment.
The figures for East Hill are not really complete at, the present
time because we deferred action on, I think, five or six of the 21
sites. So we didn't get together and make any prel,ixtn;%ry numbers
on those. We, the staff had some estimates based �, on the site-
specific recommendations prior to your actions but you made some
adjustments to that recommendation. You left some windows open on
five or six sites so we haven't really sat down and dqn� a numbers
game yet.
Chair Martinez: O.k. And, for the purposes of t4is discussion
when we get back into session we do actually have fov* things that
we need to consider and each. . .the site specific �iJ, the fourth
step. So, we'll do that when,�we go back into seseipoi, O,k. Yes.
8:38 p.m. Went into workshop.
9:58 p.m. Commissioner Stg}ner: I move that We pontinue this
hearing until November 20 to complete our deliberations and, at
that time, look at maps of both East Hill and Valley,gloor showing
those sites that we have taken action on at thie, p xni and those
sites that are still to be considered.
Commissioner Greenstreet: I'll second.
Chair Martinez: Is there discussion. Fine. All ia, fiavor?
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Voices: Aye
Chair Martinez: Opposed.
Silence.
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Chair Martinez: We have a number of other pieces �pf this puzzle
for the valley floor and would you like to go t�Ar" .. Because
this site-by-site is the last thing. Would you like,,to go through
each one of these so that we are prepared to make our,,d;ecisions on
November 20. O.k. Please turn to page VF-93. Anc1t a proposed
action is to amend the Valley Floor Subarea Plan text a,s outlined.
What is the pleasure of the Commission?
Chair Martinez: May I have a motion?
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Commissioner Stoner: I move that we adopt the one Valley Floor
Subarea Plan Text amendment.
Chair Martinez: Is there a second?
Commissioner Forner: Second.
Chair Martinez: Are there any discussions? All in favor?
Voices: Aye
Chair Martinez: Opposed?
Silence.
Chair Martinez: Carried. Number 2 , last, we in fact indicated
our willingness to have a. . . Oh, I 'm sorry, just a moment. Number
2, I was getting to R1-5. This is the single-family overlay that
was . . . indicated our desire to maintain some of these areas as
single-family areas.
Commissioner Greenstreet: (Unclear) . . .that we have. . . .
Chair Martinez: Yes, because it has been suggested by
Commissioner Stoner that and (unclear) overlay.
Commissioner Greenstreet: Correct, that would be then. . .
Chair Martinez: We have input from staff. Please.
Stephen Clifton: I would like to bring up the fact that MF11, if
you do decide to rezone to 9.6, it would probably be in the best
interest to also include that into the single-family designated
area. As you can see on the map on. . .I think close to the last
page. . .that area, actually it's on page VF-92, you will notice a
little chunk there that is white up in the northeast single-family
designated area. That white chunk is multifamily Area-11 so if you
do go to 9.6 it probably would be best to also include that in the
single designated area overlay.
Chair Martinez: And, in fact, the text indicates that it is
(unclear) .
Clifton: Right. So you will have to amend that and just continue
the easterly boundary down along there and include that in the
single-family overlay area. I just thought I would bring that up.
Chair Martinez: Yeah, thank you.
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Commissioner Greenstreet: On the single-family (unclear) .
Chair Martinez: O.k. Let's. . .would you like to dater this one.
O.k. O.k. , fine. Can we deal with #3. Last ti , '•we did, in
fact, indicate our willingness to have an R1-5 zon$nq district.
Which we could (unclear) since we are going to be coroioering them
both in tandem we could refer back to that decisJ,Ojft,., We choose.
Commissioner Forner: I thought we adopted to include, . .to it be
applicable to all (unclear) . . .all areas.
Chair Martinez: We just made a zoning code reeommer ation, right?
And since we don't have facts and findings we dgn!, . , . But, we
could just go along with that. O.k. So, we have,.,. ,,r,
Commissioner Greenstreet: Now, does this R1-5 ;also (unclear)
include in this R5 (unclear) .. . .east hill (unclear)�,. i
Commissioner Forner: No, it was. . . � ,•
Commissioner Greenstreet: It was City. . . .average,o
Chair Martinez: And it has those. . . ,'
Commissioner Forner: Those two limitations. . .tbe,ithlkee and the
(unclear) acres.. The three minimum and the eight (unclear) .
Do we have to make a motion to adopt to apply to tho. ., .
Chair Martinez: I don't think so. I don't think �,Vo�. O.k. Is
there a motion to adjourn this meeting to November 10?
Commissioner Stoner: So move.
Chair Martinez: Second.
Commissioner Forner: Yes. ;
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Chair Martinez: All in favor?
Voices: Aye
Chair Martinez: This meeting is adjourned.
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PROPOSED C-SUFFIX AMENDMENT
TO THE VALLEY FLOOR PLAN MAP
CPZ-89-5
This is a proposal to amend the City of Kent Valley Floor Plan Map
to add a C-Suffix overlay designation at the intersection of
74th Avenue S. and Willis Street.
Chair Martinez opened the hearing on the proposed C-Suffix
Amendment and requested staff presentation.
Fred Satterstrom, Kent Planning Department, gave a brief
explanation of C-suffix. Mr. Satterstrom showed some
transparencies of the site depicting: 1) a conceptual circle of
the proposed C-suffix overlay; and 2) the location of the property.
A brief history of the area was given.
Mr. Satterstrom commented recently a Downtown Plan was completed
by the City and this area was designated business park. In
addition, in conjunction with the Housing Study, there might be
lower density housing on the east side of the railroad tracks.
The area is associated with the downtown area because of its
location and is associated with the freeway interchange as well.
It is separated from the residential area to the south of Willis
by the railroad tracks. Mr. Satterstrom commented the applicant
Ronald Healy will speak regarding the future use of the site;
however, it was the Planning Department's understanding that the
site would be developed as a hotel/motel with a restaurant.
Mr. Satterstrom commented this request has been through SEPA;
however, when a specific development request is received, another
environmental checklist will be required and the matter will be
heard by the Hearing Examiner.
Commissioner Forner asked if it was true that the C-suffix allows
other uses than service type uses to serve the area.
Mr. Satterstrom stated the C-suffix permits motel development as
well as restaurants. There was emphasis placed on service-type
uses; however, most requests have been for restaurant/motel type
uses. Mr. Satterstrom stated the:Public Works Department submitted
a report stating that presently the level of service is at F and
they project 110 p.m. peak hour trips would be generated by the
development. The report went into specific development
requirements.
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Chair Martinez asked what further development could ,bw considered
within the circle other than ghat is being request ?,!tojaight.
Mr. Satterstrom stated in his opinion the developswntpotential is
limited. The restaurant and motel site would use!',' tbp, land on the
south side, between the railroad tracks and SR167 on the west.
The north side of Willis, between SR167 and the ra4ro4d tracks
would be left and that area has no direct access .�;o#ito Willis.
Thus, unless there was a change in the access, other than the
limited access on the north side of Willis, the development
potential is impeded.
Commissioner Faust asked what happened to the proposed office
building that was planned to be considered in the trj ngular piece
of land.
Mr. Satterstrom commented a variance was granted bpithe Board of
Adjustment; the applicant has gone through the development process.
Mr. Satterstrom didn't know whether a building perZit has been
approved.
Chair Martinez asked if the applicant would like to ,comment.
Ronald R. Healey, architect for the project, John Anderson &
Associates, 10620 NE 8th, Bellevue, 98004, talked about what was
being proposed. The project will be about 2.9 acres'�and developed
into a restaurant and motel. Mr. Healey commented the restaurant
would be 6,300 square feet in size and the motel would be about 132
units. The railroad tracks separate this site from the single-
family area.
Jim Harris commented the matter being considered tonight before
the Commission is the C-suffix request, not the building of the
motel/hotel and restaurant complex. Mr. Harris stated this area
is zoned for heavier uses.
Commissioner Stoner commented she would like some information
concerning traffic and what could be developed in' this area
especially if the circle was expanded to the northeast--towards
Kent Elementary.
Mr. Harris stated the public hearing tonight is only to consider
the south side of Willis Street for the C-suffix compte�hensive plan
change.
A motion was made to close the public hearing. Cgmmlsojoner Faust
MOVED and Commissioner Orr SECONDED the motion, Motion passed
unanimously.
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Commissioner Stoner commented she would like to know what would be
the traffic impacts on the intersection. Cqmmissiongr Stoner made
a motion to continue the hearing to November 27. Cg=issioner
Faust SECONDED. Motion passed.
A MOTION was MADE and SECONDED to adjourn the hearing. The hearing
was adjourned at 10:3D p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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NWAs P. Harris, Secretary
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