HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council Committees - Operations - 08/23/1995 OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MINUTES
August 23 , 1995
COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT: Jon Johnson-Committee Chair, Christi
Houser, Leona Orr
STAFF PRESENT: Tim Clark, Roger Lubovich, May Miller, Sue
Viseth, Ken Chatwin, Bob Olson, Dee Gergich, Arthur Martin,
Brenda Jacober
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC: Bill Doolittle
The meeting was called to order at 9 : 35 a.m. by Chairperson
Johnson.
Apyroval of vouchers. All claims for the period ending August
15, 1995, in the amount of $2, 670,422 .23 were approved for
payment.
Worker' s Compensation - Claims Handling Contract Renewal. Ken
Chatwin of the Human Resources Department noted that the city has
always automatically renewed the Scott Wetzel contract, and that
he recently had an opportunity to get a proposal from Johnston &
Culverson. He noted that $31, 000 was spent in 1994, but that
that was based on 1993 which was a high claim year. He
explained that the fees currently paid to Scott Wetzel and those
proposed by Johnston & Culverson are very similar, and noted that
most claims are medical rather than indemnity. Chatwin said that
the city is not ready to handle their own claims, as it is very
time consuming and is not cost effective. He offered to look
further into this issue if the Committee desires, but noted that
the city has been with Scott Wetzel since 1979 and that their
prices are still in line. He recommended staying with Scott
Wetzel. Orr moved to recommend authorization to renew Workers
Compensation Claims Handling contract with Scott Wetzel. Houser
seconded and the motion carried.
Out of Country Travel. This item was removed from the agenda by
Committee member Houser.
Election Night Conflicts with Council Meetings. Councilmember
Clark noted that in the past he had requested shifting the dates
of some of the Council meetings due to holidays and so forth, but
that election night had not been included in the final version.
He asked the Committee to reconsider having Council meetings on
election nights for the following reasons: 1) A respect for the
citizens and their role in the process. He said having Council
meetings on election night would put a barrier in front of citi-
zenship. 2) There is an obligation to protect the process of
democracy, and that financial matters are dealt with ,at
elections. He said everyone is best served by having the highest
number of participants possible, and that having Council meetings
on election night creates a barrier for other organizations by
putting Council business before the public's participation in
community decisions. 3) There is a responsibility to respect the
status of voters. He said voters should never have to make the
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choice of voting or attending the Council meeting. 4) Voter
participation should be encouraged, which the City is not doing
by holding a Council meeting. 5) Recognition of the fact that
no one has control of the agenda. He pointed out that citizens
are free to bring up any concerns at a Council meeting, and said
it would be inappropriate to schedule the Council's business to
not be of major impact on the community. He said that by holding
a Council meeting on the night people are to vote, when public
health and safety issues may be formost on their minds and the
Council meeting is their vehicle to address those concerns, the
City would be scheduling them to come to the meeting rather than
to go to vote. Clark requested that when the November election
conflicts with the City Council meeting, that the Council meeting
be moved. He spoke in opposition to having the Council meeting
on the Monday preceeding the election, as it could be used as a
forum.
Orr said she cannot support moving a Council meeting to a date
that she knows she cannot attend the meeting on. She said she
rarely misses meetings, and that she cannot attend meetings on
Mondays and Wednesdays. She suggested changing the time of the
meeting to 8: 00 or 8: 15 p.m. after the polls close.
Clark stated that this issue is about the voting public, not
about how it affects Councilmembers. Orr responded that it is
the responsibility of Councilmembers to attend the meetings to
deal with whatever issues may come up, and she cannot support
something that would remove her from her responsibility as a
Councilmember. Houser agreed with the idea of starting the
meeting at a later time. Orr pointed out that citizens get used
to having Council meetings on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of the
month, and that there would most likely be a communications
problem if the day were changed. Clark noted that his primary
concern is the election in November of each year. Orr and Houser
suggested having the meeting on election night but starting it at
8 : 00 or 8: 15. Clark asked that the time be 8: 15 p.m. and all
agreed. Johnson pointed out that notice would have to be given
of the time change, but expressed concern that people may still
show up at 7:00.
Johnson noted that items which are brought up at a Council
meeting by a member of the audience are generally referred to a
committee, and are not acted upon that night. He said he does
not recall ever before having a problem on election night, and
that controversial items have been scheduled for the Council
meeting before or after. Orr added that no citizen has ever said
that having the Council meeting on election night has created a
hardship for them to vote. Clark said citizens may have a sudden
need to come before the Council; Johnson responded that they will
have the opportunity to speak.
Lubovich clarified that the language needed in the ordinance to
change the meeting time is as follows: "if any such day of a
regular meeting is on the day of the November General Election,
the meeting shall be held on the same day at 8: 15 p.mb " Orr so
moved. Houser seconded.
Bill Doolittle noted that on election night there is a sense of
urgency in the room and a rush to adjourn, and that starting the
meeting at 8: 15 will make it worse. He suggested having the
Council meetings in November on the first and second or first and
fourth Tuesdays of the month. Clark noted that there is now only
one Council meeting in December, and that meetings could be held
on the second and fourth Tuesdays in November and the second
Tuesday in December. Johnson pointed out that elections
sometimes fall on the second Tuesday of the month. Johnson and
Clark discussed having only one Council meeting in November, with
a special meeting if necessary; Lubovich pointed out that that is
budget time. Miller added that the tax levy ordinance must also
be adopted at that time of year.
Johnson suggested taking this matter under advisement and
bringing it back to the next meeting. Orr withdrew her motion.
Orr asked whether it could be determined on an annual basis
whether to hold a meeting on the 2nd and 3rd or 2nd and 4th
Tuesdays in November, based on budget issues, rather than
amending the ordinance permanently. Lubovich suggested setting
one meeting in November and calling a special meeting if
required. Orr noted that special meetings require special
notifications and that the agenda is limited. Lubovich stated
that regular meetings have to be established by ordinance.
Doolittle suggested amending the ordinance to give the Council
the option of changing the date on an annual basis. Lubovich
said that there may be a problem with that and offered to look
into the options. Orr reiterated her concern about confusion as
to the days. Lubovich noted that when the Fourth of July holiday
was on the first Tuesday, the meeting was held on the the next
business day, and said the same thing could be done with election
night. Clark thanked the Committee for their consideration.
July Financial Report. Finance Division Director Miller reviewed
the July Financial Report. She noted that the General Fund was
down a bit because all contracts were settled and retroactives
were paid. . She said that a new investment policy has been
drafted. She pointed out that page 8 shows that approximately
half of the debts have been paid, and that General Fund revenues
are strong and consistent. She explained the budget adjustment
relating to the annexation budget, and noted significant activity
in building permits, as well as fines and forfeitures. She noted
that page 41 shows a balance in the Health Insurance Fund of
$264, 997 in 1992 and $1,200, 000 in 1995, and that an actuarial
study is currently being done. Upon Clark's question, Miller
explained that page 25 shows a sales tax adjustment of $310,234,
of which $273 , 000 has been received.
CIP/Budget Calendar. Miller noted that department proposals are
coming in and asked whether the Council would want a workshop on
the CIP. She noted that the CIP does not have to be adopted
until November. Orr said a workshop is a good idea and all
agreed to have the workshop on October 10. Miller said she will
bring this back to Operations on September 27, and to Council for
adoption on November 7 .
Miller distributed a handout regarding changes to the budget
calendar. She explained that formerly the date for setting the
tax levy was in October, that no one ever adopted their tax levy
in October, and the code was changed to recognize that fact;
however, they did not change the requirement that the preliminary
budget be presented October 1st or before. She explained that
this would require that the budget be balanced in September,
which is impossible. She pointed out that Municipal Research
Services believes that cities can continue to follow their
current practice, if the Council agrees. She noted that current
practice is to have the budget ready in October or November.
Miller then explained the second change, which requires that a
public hearing be held before the property tax levy is adopted.
She said they usually do not have figures before early in
December, and expressed concern about the ability to hold a
public hearing in time to meet this requirement when the
information is not available. Lubovich said this issue has been
addressed in the past and agreed to research it. Johnson noted
that the Assessor has never submitted the levy on time, and that
the Department of Revenue has always ignored the deadline.
Miller noted that figures can be estimated, but that they cannot
be adjusted higher if estimated improperly.
Added Item - Council Computers. Orr referred to a memo from
Council President Woods stating that it costs $15, 000 a year for
five Councilmembers to have computers. She asked for a detailed
report as to how that figure was arrived at, since she understood
the computers were surplus and the costs were minimal. Miller
said it may be related to paying maintenance on the mainframe.
Added Item - Meeting Notices. Bill Doolittle noted that he
recently received four meeting notices on the same day, each with
32 cents postage on it. He asked why bulk mail was not used and
why the notices are not consolidated. Orr explained that a staff
person recently told her that bulk mail is not always delivered
promptly or at all. Doolittle suggested showing the meeting
times on the cable tv channel and Orr indicated that this is
being done. She agreed that postage is worth looking into.
Lubovich suggested updating the mailing lists annually; all
agreed. On further comments from Doolittle regarding the
notices, Houser explained that notice of cancellation of meetings
is required. Roger said it may be that notice of cancellation of
meetings only requires posting, not mailing. He agreed to check
on it.
Adiournment. There was no further business and the meeting
adjourned at 11: 00 o'clock.
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OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MINUTES
August 23 , 1995
COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT: Jon Johnson-Committee Chair, Christi
Houser, Leona Orr
STAFF PRESENT: Tim Clark, Roger Lubovich, May Miller, Sue
Viseth, Ken Chatwin, Bob Olson, Dee Gergich, Arthur Martin,
Brenda Jacober
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC: Bill Doolittle
The meeting was called to order at 9 : 35 a.m. by Chairperson
Johnson.
Approval of Vouchers. All claims for the period ending August
15, 1995, in the amount of $2 , 670,422 . 23 were approved for
payment.
Worker' s Compensation - Claims Handling Contract Renewal. Ken
Chatwin of the Human Resources Department noted that the city has
always automatically renewed the Scott Wetzel contract, and that
he recently had an opportunity to get a proposal from Johnston &
Culverson. He noted that $31, 000 was spent in 1994, but that
that was based on 1993 which was a high claim year. He
explained that the fees currently paid to Scott Wetzel and those
proposed by Johnston & Culverson are very similar, and noted that
most claims are medical rather than indemnity. Chatwin said that
the city is not ready to handle their own claims, as it is very
time consuming and is not cost effective. He offered to look
further into this issue if the Committee desires, but noted that
the city has been with Scott Wetzel since 1979 and that their
prices are still in line. He recommended staying with Scott
Wetzel. Orr moved to recommend authorization to renew Workers
Compensation Claims Handling contract with Scott Wetzel. Houser
seconded and the motion carried.
Out of Country Travel. This item was removed from the agenda by
Committee member Houser.
Election Night Conflicts with Council Meetings. Councilmember
Clark noted that in the past he had requested shifting the dates
of some of the Council meetings due to holidays and so forth, but
that election night had not been included in the final version.
He asked the Committee to reconsider having Council meetings on
election nights for the following reasons: 1) A respect for the
citizens and their role in the process. He said having Council
meetings on election night would put a barrier in front of citi-
zenship. 2) There is an obligation to protect the process of
democracy, and that financial matters are dealt with at
elections. He said everyone is best served by having the highest
number of participants possible, and that having Council meetings
on election night creates a barrier for other organizations by
putting Council business before the public's participation in
community decisions. 3) There is a responsibility to respect the
status of voters. He said voters should never have to make the
choice of voting or attending the Council meeting. 4) Voter Y
participation should be encouraged, which the City is not doing
by holding a Council meeting. 5) Recognition of the fact that
no one has control of the agenda. He pointed out that citizens
are free to bring up any concerns at a Council meeting, and said
it would be inappropriate to schedule the Council's business to
not be of major impact on the community. He said that by holding
a Council meeting on the night people are to vote, when public
health and safety issues may be formost on their minds and the
Council meeting is their vehicle to address those concerns, the
City would be scheduling them to come to the meeting rather than
to go to vote. Clark requested that when the November election
conflicts with the City Council meeting, that the Council meeting
be moved. He spoke in opposition to having the Council meeting
on the Monday preceeding the election, as it could be used as a
forum.
Orr said she cannot support moving a Council meeting to a date
that she knows she cannot attend the meeting on. She said she
rarely misses meetings, and that she cannot attend meetings on
Mondays and Wednesdays. She suggested changing the time of the
meeting to 8 : 00 or 8: 15 p.m. after the polls close.
Clark stated that this issue is about the voting public, not
about how it affects Councilmembers. Orr responded that it is
the responsibility of Councilmembers to attend the meetings to
deal with whatever issues may come up, and she cannot support
something that would remove her from her responsibility as a
Councilmember. Houser agreed with the idea of starting the
meeting at a later time. Orr pointed out that citizens get used
to having Council meetings on the 1st and 3rd Tuesday of the
month, and that there would most likely be a communications
problem if the day were changed. Clark noted that his primary
concern is the election in November of each year. Orr and Houser
suggested having the meeting on election night but starting it at
8 : 00 or 8: 15. Clark asked that the time be 8: 15 p.m. and all
agreed. Johnson pointed out that notice would have to be given
of the time change, but expressed concern that people may still
show up at 7: 00.
Johnson noted that items which are brought up at a Council
meeting by a member of the audience are generally referred to a
committee, and are not acted upon that night. He said he does
not recall ever before having a problem on election night, and
that controversial items have been scheduled for the Council
meeting before or after. Orr added that no citizen has ever said
that having the Council meeting on election night has created a
hardship for them to vote. Clark said citizens may have a sudden
need to come before the Council; Johnson responded that they will
have the opportunity to speak.
Lubovich clarified that the language needed in the ordinance to
change the meeting time is as follows: "if any such day of a
regular meeting is on the day of the November General Election,
the meeting shall be held on the same day at 8 : 15 p.m. " Orr so
moved. Houser seconded.
Bill Doolittle noted that on election night there is a sense of
urgency in the room and a rush to adjourn, and that starting the
meeting at 8: 15 will make it worse. He suggested having the
Council meetings in November on the first and second or first and
fourth Tuesdays of the month. Clark noted that there is now only
one Council meeting in December, and that meetings could be held
on the second and fourth Tuesdays in November and the second
Tuesday in December. Johnson pointed out that elections
sometimes fall on the second Tuesday of the month. Johnson and
Clark discussed having only one Council meeting in November, with
a special meeting if necessary; Lubovich pointed out that that is
budget time. Miller added that the tax levy ordinance must also
be adopted at that time of year.
Johnson suggested taking this matter under advisement and
bringing it back to the next meeting. Orr withdrew her motion.
Orr asked whether it could be determined on an annual basis
whether to hold a meeting on the 2nd and 3rd or 2nd and 4th
Tuesdays in November, based on budget issues, rather than
amending the ordinance permanently. Lubovich suggested setting
one meeting in November and calling a special meeting if
required. Orr noted that special meetings require special
notifications and that the agenda is limited. Lubovich stated
that regular meetings have to be established by ordinance.
Doolittle suggested amending the ordinance to give the Council
the option of changing the date on an annual basis. Lubovich
said that there may be a problem with that and offered to look
into the options. Orr reiterated her concern about confusion as
to the days. Lubovich noted that when the Fourth of July holiday
was on the first Tuesday, the meeting was held on the the next
business day, and said the same thing could be done with election
night. Clark thanked the Committee for their consideration.
July Financial Report. Finance Division Director Miller reviewed
the July Financial Report. She noted that the General Fund was
down a bit because all contracts were settled and retroactives
were paid. . She said that a new investment policy has been
drafted. She pointed out that page 8 shows that approximately
half of the debts have been paid, and that General Fund revenues
are strong and consistent. She explained the budget adjustment
relating to the annexation budget, and noted significant activity
in building permits, as well as fines and forfeitures. She noted
that page 41 shows a balance in the Health Insurance Fund of
$264, 997 in 1992 and $1, 200, 000 in 1995, and that an actuarial
study is currently being done. Upon Clark's question, Miller
explained that page 25 shows a sales tax adjustment of $310,234,
of which $273 , 000 has been received.
CIPJBudget Calendar. Miller noted that department proposals are
coming in and asked whether the Council would want a workshop on
the CIP. She noted that the CIP does not have to be adopted
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until November. Orr said a workshop is a good idea and all
agreed to have the workshop on October 10. Miller said she will
bring this back to Operations on September 27, and to Council for
adoption on November 7 .
Miller distributed a handout regarding changes to the budget
calendar. She explained that formerly the date for setting the
tax levy was in October, that no one ever adopted their tax levy
in October, and the code was changed to recognize that fact;
however, they did not change the requirement that the preliminary
budget be presented October 1st or before. She explained that
this would require that the budget be balanced in September,
which is impossible. She pointed out that Municipal Research
Services believes that cities can continue to follow their
current practice, if the Council agrees. She noted that current
practice is to have the budget ready in October or November.
Miller then explained the second change, which requires that a
public hearing be held before the property tax levy is adopted.
She said they usually do not have figures before early in
December, and expressed concern about the ability to hold a
public hearing in time to meet this requirement when the
information is not available. Lubovich said this issue has been
addressed in the past and agreed to research it. Johnson noted
that the Assessor has never submitted the levy on time, and that
the Department of Revenue has always ignored the deadline.
Miller noted that figures can be estimated, but that they cannot
be adjusted higher if estimated improperly.
Added Item - Council Computers. Orr referred to a memo from
Council President Woods stating that it costs $15, 000 a year for
five Councilmembers to have computers. She asked for a detailed
report as to how that figure was arrived at, since she understood
the computers were surplus and the costs were minimal. Miller
said it may be related to paying maintenance on the mainframe.
Added Item - Meeting Notices. Bill Doolittle noted that he
recently received four meeting notices on the same day, each with
32 cents postage on it. He asked why bulk mail was not used and
why the notices are not consolidated. Orr explained that a staff
person recently told her that bulk mail is not always delivered
promptly or at all. Doolittle suggested showing the meeting
times on the cable tv channel and Orr indicated that this is
being done. She agreed that postage is worth looking into.
Lubovich suggested updating the mailing lists annually; all
agreed. On further comments from Doolittle regarding the
notices, Houser explained that notice of cancellation of meetings
is required. Roger said it may be that notice of cancellation of
meetings only requires posting, not mailing. He agreed to check
on it.
Adjournment. There was no further business and the meeting
adjourned at 11: 00 o'clock.