HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council Committees - Planning and Economic Development Committee - 10/26/1992 KENT PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
October 26, 1992
The meeting of the Kent Planning Commission was called to order by
Chair Martinez at 7:00 P.M. on October 26, 1992 in the Kent City
Hall, City Council Chambers.
PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT:
Linda Martinez, Chair
Edward Heineman, Jr. , Vice Chair
Gwen Dahle
Albert Haylor
Kent Morrill
Raymond Ward
PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT:
Christopher Grant
Greg Greenstreet
PLANNING STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT:
James P. Harris, Planning Director
Fred N. Satterstrom, Planning Manager
Leslie J. Herbst, Recording Secretary
APPROVAL OF SEPTEMBER 28 , 1992 PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES
Commissioner Heineman MOVED to accept the September 28, 1992
minutes as presented. Commissioner Morrill SECONDED the motion.
Motion CARRIED.
RECREATIONAL VEHICLE PARKS IN GC ZONE - ZCA-92-3
Fred Satterstrom of the Planning Department said the proposed code
amendment stems from a regulatory review action that was before the
Planning Commission in 1990 wherein Betty Lou Kapela requested that
recreational vehicle parks be allowed as a conditional use in the
General Commercial zone. When someone comes to the City and finds
that the Zoning Code does not permit the kind of action they are
proposing, they can request that the Code be changed. When
Ms. Kapela requested this change a couple years ago, the Planning
Commission decided not to go forward with it because Planning staff
said they would be proposing some amendments to the Recreational
Vehicle Park Code. Nothing has been done to the Recreational
Vehicle Park Code and it is not in the work program for 1993, so
the matter is being brought back to the Planning Commission.
Planning staff and the Planning Commission were positive in terms
of the proposed code amendment two years ago and staff felt it
should not be delayed further.
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The current regulations only allow RV parks to be established in
multiple family districts. The applicants own some property
between I-5 and Highway 99 which they feel would be appropriate for
an RV park. Staff agrees that for the most part RV parks would be
an appropriate use in the GC zone, particularly if there is a
hearing process established such as would be the case with a
Conditional Use Permit. It would require a public hearing before
the Hearing Examiner where the impacts to neighboring properties,
traffic issues and so forth could be addressed.
Commissioner Haylor asked if they were talking about RV parks
similar to the KOA on 208th. Mr. Satterstrom said we are talking
about recreational vehicle parks for short term stays, not mobile
home parks where people live permanently.
Commissioner Dahle expressed concern about the safety issue and
wondered if fencing would be required between the park and the
highway. Mr. Satterstrom thought that would undoubtedly be a
concern which would be addressed at the public hearing before the
Hearing Examiner. Also, that would be a typical Code requirement
when the property in question abuts neighboring properties.
The staff is recommending that the Planning Commission recommend to
the Council that Section 15.04. 140 (D) be modified to add
recreational vehicle parks as a conditional use in the GC zone.
Robert Kapela, 5650B 132nd NE, Bellevue, said his mother initiated
this action mainly because their property is directly south of the
Midway landfill. The landfill is in the process of being cleaned
up, but has made it tough to find uses for their property. Their
neighbors are commercial; they don't have any multifamily
neighbors. Regarding the safety issue, the entrance to the
property will be from 240th which is a dead end road and there is
a state fence which runs the length of the property which abuts
I-5. Also they feel this use would be appropriate because it is
similar to a motel/hotel situation which is allowed in a GC zone.
Commissioner Haylor asked how many spaces they would have on their
14 acres. Mr. Kapela said they planned on having 50 spaces in the
beginning with another part of the land set aside for RV and boat
storage. The majority of the land would remain raw land for the
interim period simply because it's too expensive to develop a 14
acre RV site. It would probably be developed in phases.
Mr. Satterstrom produced a copy of the Recreational Vehicle Park
Code to answer some of the questions asked earlier. There is a
section dealing with park operation which addresses the licenses,
registration of occupants, inspections and occupancy limit. There
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is also a section that requires that all RV parks shall be
surrounded by a five foot high, 50 to 100% view obscuring wall,
fence or planting strip.
Commissioner Ward MOVED to close the public hearing.
Commissioner Dahle SECONDED the motion. Motion CARRIED.
Commissioner Ward MOVED to modify Section 15. 04. 140 (D) to permit
recreational vehicle parks as a conditional use in the GC zone.
Commissioner Haylor SECONDED the motion. The motion CARRIED.
CRITICAL AREAS - ZCA-91-3 AND CPA-91-1
Mr. Satterstrom reported that the wetlands ordinance that the
Planning Commission recommended went to City Council on October 6.
At that time, the Council was also presented with an alternative
from the Chamber of Commerce. The City Council remanded the
proposed wetlands ordinance back to the Planning Commission because
the Commission had not had a chance to review the document from the
Chamber. Council asked that the Planning Commission go through
this review as quickly as possible and send it back to Council
within 90 days. Because of the upcoming holidays, there is not a
lot of time to deal with this as a Planning Commission. one of the
ways of helping the Commission work through this ordinance would be
to form a citizens advisory task force or committee, comprised of
people representing a number of diverse perspectives on this, who
know something about the Chamber's recommendation and the Planning
Commission's recommendation. This group could work its way through
and, to the best of its ability, try to come up with a consensus
document that would be advisory to the Planning Commission.
Chair Martinez pointed out that the City Council had asked that if
anyone else had a plan, that it be submitted. She asked if any
more had been received. Mr. Satterstrom said that at this point,
there are only the two alternatives.
Chair Martinez said that she would like to have
Commissioner Heineman chair the committee which would be composed
of a small group of people who would attempt to hammer out a
compromise. She felt that since there is such a little bit of
time, it would be better to do it in a small committee and then
bring it back to the Commission. She asked the opinion of the
other Commissioners.
Commissioner Dahle said that each time the Commission has passed an
ordinance and sent it to Council after working on it for a year,
some other organization decides they have a better idea. She asked
what kind of time limits should be put on people and if any more
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proposals will be accepted. Chair Martinez said we can't prevent
people from bringing forth new proposals any time they want.
Commissioner Haylor said he was not completely pleased with the
final wetlands ordinance, but they voted and passed the general
consensus of what the Commission decided would be the final
wetlands regulations. They had hearings and the public was invited
to speak and he wondered why this proposal wasn't presented during
the public hearings. He said he would not be a part of this
committee because they have done their job and presented their
proposal to the City Council.
Chair Martinez said the only thing she could say to counter that is
that Council could have taken this and done exactly what the
Commission had done--go through it step by step and hammer it out.
She would be opposed to that because the Planning Commission is the
hearing agent. She too feels it is almost unconscionable the way
people attempt to manipulate the system, but also felt that
asserting the process was important and so she accepted it back.
Commissioner Haylor said he could understand that, but if they form
a committee that's still not a hearing. It's giving one special
group an inside track on designing and coming up with their own
regulations. The people who came down in good faith and testified
do not have the same opportunity to sit in on that committee and
that's where the new ordinance will be put together.
In response to a question from Commissioner Dahle, Mr. Satterstrom
said the following was a list of suggested committee members:
Ed Heineman, Chair
Ted Knapp, Chamber of Commerce
Joe Miles, Mayor's Environmental Task Force
Sharon Rodman, who has a lot of interest in preserving wetlands
Paul Crane, Boeing Company
He asked the Commissioners to bear in mind that the frame of
reference as we work through the alternatives is that we will be
working from the Planning Commission's recommendation. Whatever
the committee does, it will come back to the Commission and they
will be the final say on this. He agreed with Commissioner Haylor
that it would have been a lot easier to deal with this during the
ongoing meetings while everything was on the table. Now we have to
do the best we can with the resources that we've got. The
committee will have to work in good faith. Both sides will have to
have an open mind and be flexible.
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Commissioner Ward asked where the Chamber's recommendation was at
the time the Planning Commission was reviewing the ordinance.
Mr. Satterstrom said he couldn't answer that. Hearsay was that the
Chamber had no intention of dealing with it at the Planning
Commission stage; that they were waiting to deal with the City
Council. Whether any of that is true, he couldn't say, but it is
too bad the Commission didn't have the proposal during the public
hearings because that would have been the proper time to review it.
He also agrees with Chair Martinez that the only alternatives were
to let the City Council wrestle with it or take it back. He feels
the Council did the appropriate thing in sending it back to the
Planning Commission because that substantiates that it is the
Planning Commission that people have to deal with.
Commissioner Ward said the Chamber's proposal is a very impressive
looking document and there are probably some very good ideas in it
that they could have taken into consideration at the time. It
concerns him that the Council would agree to allow a document to be
presented at the eleventh hour and expect the Commission to go back
and review it. He feels that, in effect, they are saying the
Commission's recommendations aren't as good as they should have
been. He feels it will be interesting to see how what comes out of
the committee will compare with the Planning Commission's
recommendations.
Commissioner Dahle wondered if they're going to work on these
processes for a year at a time and as soon as they pass them on to
the Council, some organization in the City does an end run around
them, why are they here?
Chair Martinez said they are all good questions and asked if the
Commissioners wanted to hear from the representative from the
Chamber? The Commissioners said no.
Commissioner Morrill wondered if a precedent were being set that
when the Commission sends something to the Council that some
organization may disagree with, Council will listen to them as much
as they do the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Haylor said that as far as he was concerned, the point
of this discussion is that they tell people to come to a public
hearing and that is their opportunity to tell the Commission what
they want and everyone will have a fair shake. Then after the
public hearing is closed and they have voted on the issue, it is
sent back to go behind closed doors. That makes a sham out of the
whole hearing process. Chair Martinez said this would not be done
behind closed doors and there will certainly be a public hearing to
hear the recommendations of the committee.
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Commissioner Haylor felt it is wrong for the Council to send this
document back to the Planning Commission and ask them to deal with
it all over again. They have already had the hearing process and
voted on it.
James Harris said that the City Council is not an organization that
generally sits down and begins to dissect something this
complicated. He feels that the Council, in order to be fair to all
parties and so that no one can ever come back and say they never
got to the core of this issue, has decided that if this is looked
at one more time, whatever comes out of that will be the ultimate
final decision. Apparently, the Chamber has said they don't feel
they got a fair hearing. That's neither here nor there. This is
a strategy the Chamber decided to use and it worked for them.
Commissioner Dahle said the Commission set an agenda of things they
wanted to work on a year and a half ago, and they're being told by
every organization in town that they have to do these jobs over and
over again and they have no time to work on their own agenda.
Nobody gives a damn what their plans are.
Commissioner Morrill MOVED to appoint a subcommittee to review the
two wetlands ordinances and come back to the Planning Commission
with a recommendation. Commissioner Dahle SECONDED the motion.
The motion CARRIED with Commissioner Haylor voting against.
Commissioner Heineman said there is a tentative plan to have the
first meeting of the committee Friday morning, October 30.
Commissioner Morrill recommended that Jack Nelson be appointed to
the committee. He is an attorney in Kent and was at all the public
hearings. Chair Martinez said they are going to try to keep the
committee to four or five people and would consider Mr. Nelson.
Chair Martinez asked if the Commissioners wanted to initiate a
meeting with the Chamber of Commerce to tell them what the
Commission thinks. The Commissioners felt that the Chamber now
knows what they think. Commissioners Ward and Heineman felt that
if this has happened repeatedly over the years, which apparently it
has, they should talk to the Council about it. Chair Martinez said
she would see if she could get some two way dialogue going perhaps
sometime in January.
Commissioner Heineman asked if a technical consultant would be
available to the Wetlands Committee. Mr. Satterstrom said if the
Committee felt it was necessary, it would be arranged.
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ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Dahle MOVED to adjourn the meeting. Commissioner Ward
SECONDED the motion. The motion CARRIED and the meeting was
adjourned at 8: 00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
J mes P. Harris, Secretary
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