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CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
August 15, 1996
Members Present: Mike Pattison
Callius Zaratkiewcz
Ron Banister
Others Present: Lt. Shepard, Lillian Hernandez, Dave Santos, Lt. Bob Holt, Captain C.E.
Miller, P.O.A. President Officer Bob Burwell, AFSCME President- Dea
Drake, Sue Viseth - H.R. Director, Karen Ford - H.R. Analyst, Lt. Mitchell
and Chief Crawford, others present.
I. COMMISSION BUSINESS:
II. HEARINGS
III. OLD BUSINESS
A. Accept into Record
1. Chair Pattison moved to approve the Minutes from the July 18, 1996 Civil Service
• Commission Meeting. Seconded and carried.
IV. NEW BUSINESS
A. Approval and Accept into Record
1. Chair Pattison moved to approve the Police Departments Position Descriptions for
Police Chief, Police Officer, Captain, Administrative Assistant II, Kelli Rogers, Police
Records Specialist Decker, Police Records Supervisor Leroy and Accounting Services
Assistant Allard. Seconded and carried.
2. Chair Pattison moved to approve the memo dated July 24, 1996 from Chief Angelo
notifying the Commission that firefighter Buddy Sizemore has successfully passed his
First Class Promotion effective July 24, 1996. Seconded and carried.
3. Chair Pattison moved to approve the memo dated July 30, 1996 from Chief Angelo to
the Commission advising them that Steve Hamilton accepted the position of Assistant
Fire Chief effective August 12, 1996. Seconded and carried.
4. Chair Pattison moved to approve the letter dated July 31, 1996 from Chief Crawford to
Diederik G. Peter confirming his appointment as a probationary Police Officer effective
August 22, 1996. Seconded and carried.
5. Chair Pattison moved to approve Memo dated July 31, 1996 from Chief Angelo notifying
• the Commission that firefighter Marty Hauer has successfully passed his First Class
Promotion effective July 30, 1996. Seconded and carried.
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6. Chair Pattison moved to approve the Disciplinary Action memo dated August 8, 1996
from Chief Crawford to Officer Tom Hankins . Seconded and carried.
7. Chair Pattison moved to approve the Certification letter dated August 8, 1996 from the
Civil Service Examiner establishing the Corrections Sergeants Eligibility List. Seconded
and carried.
Action Items for Discussion
1. Chair Pattison opened for discussion the Certified letter dated July 30, 1996 from the
Secretary and Chief Examiner to Entry Level Police candidate Sean E. Robertson
informing him that his name has been removed from the Entry Level Police Officer
Eligibility List due to the fact that he has accepted employment elsewhere.
There being no discussion, Commissioner Zaratkiewitz moved to approve and accept
the letter into the record. Seconded and carried.
2. Chair Pattison opened for discussion the memo dated August 5, 1996 from Captain C.E.
Miller requesting permission to go to the General Public in order to fill the Corrections
Administrative Assistant 1 position.
Captain Miller stated that the reason for requesting to go to the outside for candidates
was that none of the internal candidates passed the process. He then outlined the
testing process to be used for the position:
Written test (to be prepared by a professional agency). Weighted 40% of final score.
Typing test of 55 wpm which will be a pass/fail
Oral Board weighted 60% of final score.
Must have a passing score of 70% on the written and oral board portions.
Dea Drake, President of AFSCME questioned why go to an outside agency for the
written test.
Chief Examiner Guiguet stated that the Agency to be used have stock tests for the
position which cover all the areas needed to assess the outside candidates skills. The
inside candidates were a known quantity and did not require a written exam.
City Attorney Lubovich stated that this has been done before.
Chief Examiner Guiguet agreed and stated that it is done quite often when going outside
for filling the position.
Chair Pattison asked if this was a standard operating procedure?
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Chief Examiner Guiguet said yes and stated that it had been suggested to her that people
would like to see a more uniform procedure. To use a written test internally and then use the
same test when we go to the outside. This would be something to look at when we do the
Rules Revisions.
Dea Drake stated that it seemed unfair to her as a representative of AFSCME that we use
different criteria for our outside people than we do for the inside people. It might well be that
our inside people could have passed the test that we use for outside. You are not going to
allow the inside people to reapply for the test. It seems to me that what is good enough for the
inside people should be good enough for the outside people.
The Chief Examiner explained that the inside candidates actually got a bye regarding the
written portion of the test because they were not required to write one to go on in the selection
process. The portion that the inside candidates did not pass was the Oral Board. The Oral
Board will have the same format that we had for the inside candidates.
Captain Miller stated that the written test would be harder to pass, and with our inside
candidates who were know quantities we skipped the written portion of the exam because we
already knew what they were capable of in that area.
Sue Viseth, H.R. Director stated that it is important not to duplicate the same test. The written
test that may be given to internal candidates and then to use that same written test for external
candidates could be a concern that the testing material is already out there. We're still looking
for the same skill level, we're still testing for that but modifying the test so that we don't have it
out there.
Dea Drake: "I'm still concerned that there are times that it doesn't appear or there is no action
that would impugn the process in the sense that the people that tested inside might feel that
they were tested harder or the test changed that they might have passed it if they had taken it
with the outside group. Obviously they didn't pass the Oral Board but the truth is that one of
the people who did not pass is going to be acting in that capacity and probably training the
person who comes in. So, why didn't that person qualify? I think that you have to be really
careful in your process if you are changing the tests that it gives the appearance that the
internal test was more difficult."
Captain Miller: "Again I'd like to stress that the external process is actually more difficult and
harder than what we used in house because we had a certain level that already qualified to
work for the City and we don't know the people who are coming in from the outside so we want
to test all of their skills."
Chief Examiner Guiguet: "In order for the outside candidates to go forward to the Oral Board
they would have to pass both the 55 wpm typing test and a written. Our internal people when
• they took the typing test, we had them compose a letter which was not scored by the Examiner
but by the Assessors at the Oral Board portion. Those who passed the Typing moved forward
to the Oral Board. Outside candidates have to pass both the typing and the written in order to
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go forward to the Oral Board."
Captain Miller: "We are requesting that only the top eight candidates from the written exam go
forward to the Oral Board so we don't get into a lot of days of Oral Boards."
Commissioner Banister: "I'm still seeing a question or something from Dea that is..."
Dea Drake stated that she understood about the written exam but she wanted to raise her
concern.
Commissioner Bannister moved to approve the process as listed in the supporting document
dated August 5, 1996 and go forward with the process. Seconded and carried.
3. Chair Pattison opened for discussion the memo dated August 9, 1996 from Battalion
Chief Scott notifying the Commission that the Fire Department has decided to table the
joint testing until a later date and would like to go ahead with the Entry Level testing this
September.
• As there was no one present from the Fire Department to address this, the Chief
Examiner stated that the Commissioners had received a copy of Chief Angelos letter
dated August 13, 1996 justifying why they wish to go forward and not extend the list.
After some discussion by the Commissioners Commissioner Banister motioned to allow
the department to go ahead with their testing as requested and accept Chief Angelos
letter into record. Seconded and carried.
4. Chair Pattison opened for discussion the Position Description for Community Service
Specialist.
Sue Viseth stated that she has met with the Police Officers Association and AFSCME
regarding the creation of this new position. This is a new position for the Police
Department and Labor and Management have come to agreement that this position will
be represented by the AFSCME union. They have also come to an agreement for the
salary level for that. Salary is equivalent to that of Police Records Specialist.
Chair Pattison motioned to approve the position description of Community Service
Specialist. Seconded and carried.
Chair Pattison: "Is there any further business to come before the Commission?"
Lt. Bob Holt requested that the application period for Lateral Police Officer be extended to
August 30, 1996 and readvertise due to receiving only ten applications. After much discussion
• Commissioner Banister moved to extend the application period to August 30, 1996 and to
readvertise. Seconded and carried.
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There being no other business Chair Pattison moved to adjourn. Seconded and carried.
Adjourned at 8:32 a.m.
The next Regular Meeting will be held on Thursday, September 19, 1996 at 8:00 a.m. in
Council Chambers West.
Respectfully submitted,
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Catherine M. Guiguet
Civil Service Secretary & Chief Examiner
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